JP1, 2 or 3??

Ash Fan · Jul 30, 2003, 04:49 AM

I like JP 1 the best, as it was all new then, by the time we reach JP3 we know a lot of the formula that makes up these films, I like the other two enough, butJP1 is the best in my opinion.

Azrael · Jul 30, 2003, 09:43 AM

JP1 is the best in my humble opinion as Ash said we all know the formula by the time of JP3, i did like the second one, thought.

Apr 16, 2005, 06:04 PM

JP2 Stunk! I cannot believe that people liked it. JP and JP3 Rocked! Not to mention that they had Sam Neill! LOL

Sonny · Jul 12, 2006, 07:09 AM

JP for me. As with most sequels the follow-ups for this film just get worse and more desperate. The original JP really blew my socks off for the excellent cgi for the time. But once you get used to that fact the follow-up films have a lesser impact, not helped with some pretty crumby scripts to boot

Seraph · Jul 12, 2006, 09:22 AM

Definately.

If they wanted to pull JP back up out of the kids park, they'd have to kill their existing formula. Shame really, the 2nd was 'alright', 3rd awful but even with the first it's so easy to forget the 'wow' factor it had at the time. The effects still hold up pretty well now though which says a lot.

Have a feeling the series is falling down the Jaws route now though.

Splendiferous · Jul 12, 2006, 03:30 PM

I remember the 'wow' factor it had quite well

The film made a big impression on me when I went to see it at 13 in the cinema. That experience was one of the best cinema experiences of my life. Watching it on video since pales in comparison, but I'll never forget the ear-shattering roars, the pounding earth, the utter silence from everyone in the audience who just stared transfixed at the screen which showed some of the best special effects we'd ever seen in our lives.

The second and third are rubbish by comparison.

EDIT : Although, the second had both Jeff Goldblum AND Pete Postlethwaite in, and is thus saved from rubbishness be default. Postlethwaite makes anything (except Aeon Flux) watchable.

Seraph · Jul 12, 2006, 04:27 PM

Exactly why it gets an 'alright' (I love those two)

Wow factor = herd race across plains. The T-Rex etc. All of it managable by large animatronics/Jim Henson types, but that race was something new, full shot nothing hidden, with speed, interacting (bypassing) the human actors.

I remember then, before CGI became a thing to cringe from.

Splendiferous · Jul 12, 2006, 04:30 PM

When the actors hid under felled tree trunk thing and the dinos pounded over it and the tree trunk thing was rocking ...

(That WAS in the film, right, and not added in by my imagination after 15 subsequent VHS viewings?

)

Seraph · Jul 12, 2006, 04:35 PM

~grins~ Nope that was the end of the chase scene, the peak. Really good use of a blend of effects.

Sonny · Jul 12, 2006, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splendiferous

I remember the 'wow' factor it had quite well

EDIT : Although, the second had both Jeff Goldblum AND Pete Postlethwaite in, and is thus saved from rubbishness be default. Postlethwaite makes anything (except Aeon Flux) watchable.

Postlethwaite is a perfect example of a quality actor but more or less overshadowed by lesser talent. PP can make even turn the smallest cameo part into a memorable role.

He was awesome in Brassed Off, Romeo & Juliet, Amistad and many others. But he really hit the highs as Kobayashi in The Usual Suspects. Its criminal that he will probably spend the rest of his acting life as a support actor rather than lead.

Sonny · Jul 12, 2006, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraph

Definately.

If they wanted to pull JP back up out of the kids park, they'd have to kill their existing formula. Shame really, the 2nd was 'alright', 3rd awful but even with the first it's so easy to forget the 'wow' factor it had at the time. The effects still hold up pretty well now though which says a lot.

There are very few films that offer a "wow" factor in terms of sfx these days. Blade Runner was one of the earliest, Terminator 2, was also up there, Titanic, Toy Story and JP can also be mentioned.

But these days most movies have gone OTT with cgi, to the point where it just doesn't register anymore. You sometimes feel you're watching a computer game or anime comic rather than a proper film. CGI has taken away a lot of the magic, a lot of the "wow" factor that got people into the cinemas in the first place

Seraph · Jul 12, 2006, 05:14 PM

He's a character actor, it's inevitable - his strength and weakness. Place him in your standard fair lead and he'd be lost, he's a great stage actor though apparently.

Sonny · Jul 12, 2006, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraph

He's a character actor, it's inevitable - his strength and weakness. Place him in your standard fair lead and he'd be lost, he's a great stage actor though apparently.

Agreed, but its such a shame, and yes he is a fine actor on the stage too, and not surprisingly has done Shakespeare over the years as well

Its annoying when I see other character actors like Orlando Bloom, who still doesn't know how to act out of a paper bag, taking first or second billing: not because of his acting talents, but because he is one of Hollywood's "Beautiful People" and therefore deserves to headline a movie as far as they're concerned.

Anyway, another rant over for the evening

JurassicPark17 · May 28, 2007, 12:51 PM

Definatly Jurassic Park the first one! Without a doubt!

The original will always be best in my eyes!

absolutly fantastic.

I went through a stage of watching it over and over til I knew every word in it. I was obsessed at one point. Heck! I still am

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Jul 30, 2003, 04:49 AM	#61
Ash Fan Starfighter 67 flights since Jul 2003 Location: planet Earth	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? I like JP 1 the best, as it was all new then, by the time we reach JP3 we know a lot of the formula that makes up these films, I like the other two enough, butJP1 is the best in my opinion.

Jul 30, 2003, 09:43 AM	#62
Azrael Wing Commander 442 flights since Jul 2003 Location: Lvl-426 Colony	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? JP1 is the best in my humble opinion as Ash said we all know the formula by the time of JP3, i did like the second one, thought.

Apr 16, 2005, 06:04 PM	#63
Unregistered n/a flights since	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? JP2 Stunk! I cannot believe that people liked it. JP and JP3 Rocked! Not to mention that they had Sam Neill! LOL

Jul 12, 2006, 07:09 AM	#64
Sonny Wing Commander 444 flights since May 2006 Location: The Other Side Of The Rainbow	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? JP for me. As with most sequels the follow-ups for this film just get worse and more desperate. The original JP really blew my socks off for the excellent cgi for the time. But once you get used to that fact the follow-up films have a lesser impact, not helped with some pretty crumby scripts to boot

Jul 12, 2006, 09:22 AM	#65
Seraph .... 2,121 flights since Feb 2003 Location: Somewhere between Lucifer and Limbo	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? Definately. If they wanted to pull JP back up out of the kids park, they'd have to kill their existing formula. Shame really, the 2nd was 'alright', 3rd awful but even with the first it's so easy to forget the 'wow' factor it had at the time. The effects still hold up pretty well now though which says a lot. Have a feeling the series is falling down the Jaws route now though.

Jul 12, 2006, 03:30 PM	#66
Splendiferous Old One Pikeman 3,132 flights since Mar 2002 Location: Dreaming in plush R'lyeh	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? I remember the 'wow' factor it had quite well The film made a big impression on me when I went to see it at 13 in the cinema. That experience was one of the best cinema experiences of my life. Watching it on video since pales in comparison, but I'll never forget the ear-shattering roars, the pounding earth, the utter silence from everyone in the audience who just stared transfixed at the screen which showed some of the best special effects we'd ever seen in our lives. The second and third are rubbish by comparison. EDIT : Although, the second had both Jeff Goldblum AND Pete Postlethwaite in, and is thus saved from rubbishness be default. Postlethwaite makes anything (except Aeon Flux) watchable.

Jul 12, 2006, 04:27 PM	#67
Seraph .... 2,121 flights since Feb 2003 Location: Somewhere between Lucifer and Limbo	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? Exactly why it gets an 'alright' (I love those two) Wow factor = herd race across plains. The T-Rex etc. All of it managable by large animatronics/Jim Henson types, but that race was something new, full shot nothing hidden, with speed, interacting (bypassing) the human actors. I remember then, before CGI became a thing to cringe from. Last edited by Seraph : Jul 12, 2006 at 04:36 PM.

Jul 12, 2006, 04:30 PM	#68
Splendiferous Old One Pikeman 3,132 flights since Mar 2002 Location: Dreaming in plush R'lyeh	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? When the actors hid under felled tree trunk thing and the dinos pounded over it and the tree trunk thing was rocking ... (That WAS in the film, right, and not added in by my imagination after 15 subsequent VHS viewings? )

Jul 12, 2006, 04:35 PM	#69
Seraph .... 2,121 flights since Feb 2003 Location: Somewhere between Lucifer and Limbo	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? ~grins~ Nope that was the end of the chase scene, the peak. Really good use of a blend of effects.

Jul 12, 2006, 05:14 PM	#72
Seraph .... 2,121 flights since Feb 2003 Location: Somewhere between Lucifer and Limbo	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? He's a character actor, it's inevitable - his strength and weakness. Place him in your standard fair lead and he'd be lost, he's a great stage actor though apparently.

May 28, 2007, 12:51 PM	#74
JurassicPark17 Recruit Pilot 10 flights since May 2007 Location: wales, UK	Re: JP1, 2 or 3?? Definatly Jurassic Park the first one! Without a doubt! The original will always be best in my eyes! absolutly fantastic. I went through a stage of watching it over and over til I knew every word in it. I was obsessed at one point. Heck! I still am

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