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Old Aug 30, 2008, 01:04 PM   #61
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Re: Watchmen

Saw the trailer when I saw the Batman movie. By Asimov's Mutton Chops, this movie looks GREAT!!!
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Old Nov 17, 2008, 01:39 PM   #62
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2nd trailer's out, and it's looking even better!
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Old Nov 17, 2008, 01:47 PM   #63
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Hmmm. Still not convinced, but a little more interested.

I'm concerned about a particular plot point I've heard was changed though.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 12:54 AM   #64
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Re: Watchmen

Sounds awesome, i loved the graphic novel for it is the "Godfather" of all graphic novels.

Zack Sydner is a great choice since he blew me away with "300" and "Dawn of the Dead", this could overthrow "Dark Knight" or "Superman" for greatest comic adaptation ever.
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Old Dec 24, 2008, 09:19 AM   #65
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Hmmm. Still not convinced, but a little more interested.

I'm concerned about a particular plot point I've heard was changed though.

Spoiler tag conversation! Which one? Don't let it be the entire ending, there's no point in making it at all without the ending remaning intact...

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Old Dec 24, 2008, 03:20 PM   #66
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Re: Watchmen

Have to say, saw trailer for this while back (think it was Batman at IMAX) and it did give me happy happy happy. Proper epic it seemed, though I wouldn't have put Watchmen in the 'epic' opera category, which, er, might not be so good thinking about it.


edit: How on earth is Superman/Dark Knight best ever comic adaptation? (Ok original Superman, in cheesy 80s tongue in cheek yeah, but the recent one, oi hell no - and I'm not even jewish).
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Old Dec 27, 2008, 08:27 AM   #67
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edit: How on earth is Superman/Dark Knight best ever comic adaptation? (Ok original Superman, in cheesy 80s tongue in cheek yeah, but the recent one, oi hell no - and I'm not even jewish).

I've been saying "The Dark Knight" is vastly overrated for months now (which is a VERY different thing from saying it's not a great movie), but no one ever listens to me.

As for "Superman"... uh... what..? Sure, it's a fun movie, but you can't exactly call it faithful to the comics, can you?

As for the dispute with Fox, here's an open letter that I found online that sums up the entire situation:

Dear Fox,

Eat all the dicks.

Love,

-DOB

PS

(Okay, let me clarify a little bit for anyone who might be reading this letter that isn’t either a)obsessed with The Watchmen or b) the head of the Fox Corporation.) Back in the 80s, Fox purchased the rights to a Watchmen movie and celebrated by not making it for 20 years. Now, Warner Brothers respected their decision but, oddly enough, felt that a Watchmen movie would look better if it was actually, you know, made. So, Warner Brothers decided to make it. They announced their plans well over a year ago and Watchmen is now one of the most anticipated movies of the year. If you saw The Dark Knight and, statistically speaking, you probably did, then you already saw the trailer.
If you’re me and, statistically speaking, you’re probably not, then you went back to your apartment and watched the trailer on Youtube over and over again and experienced an odd yet not totally unexpected sense of profound sexual arousal that you could really only describe as spiritual.

If you’re Fox, you patiently waited until the excitement over the movie reached a boner-inducing fever pitch, and then you decided to sue Warner Brothers and, according to the New York Times, you won. On Christmas Eve, a judge ruled that Fox has the right to, at the very least, distribute The Watchmen. Will they try to stop the release of the movie? Probably not, (though they certainly could). Will they try to change it? Again, no. Will they make some fat cash off of it? Certainly. Should they eat all the dicks? Without a doubt.

Now, Fox, I know that you didn’t technically do anything illegal. In terms of the way the American justice system works, you are completely within your rights to do exactly what you did. You owned the movie rights to The Watchmen, and Warner Brothers made the movie anyway. Without having a real firm grasp on the law, I can certainly understand the concept of someone taking somebody else’s thing. Like, if I bought bacon with the intention of cooking it, chopping it up and throwing it into one of my famous omelettes, I’d be real pissed if some jerk showed up, took all my bacon and made their own breakfast with it. Even if that jerk was Warner Brothers, and even if their breakfast looked ****ing awesome.

But here’s the thing: You weren’t going to make that movie. You had the movie rights to the most important graphic novel of all time, and you just sat on it for a couple of decades while you focused on making other hit movies, (though I can’t for some reason think of a single one). The difference is that, when I buy bacon, I cook it almost immediately. I never just sit on it. (That’s the worst thing you can do with bacon.) And if you did want to make it, you should’ve spoken up when the movie was first announced. “Hey, Warner Brothers, don’t make that movie. We own it, and we will make it, we’re just very slow.” That would’ve been fine. But you decided to wait. You waited for Warner Brothers to buy some cheese, fry up some eggs, toast some English muffins cook its bacon, (I’m assuming here that Warner Brothers is making a bacon egg and cheese sandwich), and just when Warner Brothers was about to take a bite, you jumped out of the shadows and said “Hey, that’s mine!” Which is why I’ve popped out, from even darker shadows, shouting “Hey, eat all the dicks!”

You know what bothers me the most, you stupid, ****ty bastards? You don’t want to crush this movie or stop its release. It’s not like you’re morally opposed to the subject matter, and it’s not like you’re artistically offended by the vision and interpretation of the source material by Warner Brothers or director Zack Snyder and as a result want to stop the movie from seeing the light of day. It’s not like there are a bunch of Fox employees who worked diligently on this movie; they’re not being screwed by Warner Brothers’ production. And it isn’t like you’re lashing out because you were going to make the movie and Snyder beat you to it; you had over twenty years and did nothing.
This is about money. You saw the chance to make a ridiculous sum of money, for no reason, and you’re going to take it.

And, when the law is on your side, it’s easy for you to argue that I don’t have a leg to stand on and, at the end of the day, you’re right. You’re a business, and you made what is perhaps the smartest move a business could make. You struck at the last second, thereby forcing Warner Brothers’ hand. They’ll have to settle with you, and they’ll have to pay whatever exorbitant sums you want, or else they can just refuse to distribute the film, which, given the anticipation, will screw Warner Brothers pretty hard.

But I don’t give a **** about the law right now, (or, hey, while we’re at it, ever). When it comes down to it, Zack Snyder worked hard on this movie. All of the actors and all of the crew members worked hard on it. The producers took a risk by giving Snyder complete creative control and a buttload of money. This is a movie that fans have been praying and begging for for decades. We want this movie and, more importantly, we want it done right. We want it to be visually stunning. We want to see the book’s complex themes brought to life. We want to see Dr. Manhattan’s glorious, blue genitals majestically flopping on the big screen.

Flop flop flop flop flop.

A lot of people worked hard to make this movie what the fans want it to be and, based on the trailer, the behind the scenes video clips, most of the early reviews, this is as close as anyone will come.
You, Fox, did not do any of the work to get this movie to where it is, but you’re still going to make money off of it. And that’s a concept that I don’t quite understand, and I never will understand it. I can’t imagine that Warner Brothers has money tucked away specifically to pay to you, Fox, so I have to assume that whatever money goes to you was originally intended for someone else, someone who probably actually deserves it. You haven’t been able to make a decent hit blockbuster, so you’re pulling this crap. And that, Fox, you shameless, opportunistic, greedy, jealous, petty ****-parade, brings me back to my original thesis:

Eat all the dicks. Open your bitter, miserable mouth and eat all the dicks. Stop using that mouth of yours to whine, and get started on all these dicks you need to be eating. Keep eating dicks, even at night, even on weekends. Intuition will tell you that you’ve had enough dicks, but you will be wrong: You will never have eaten enough dicks. You may complain that what you’re doing is perfectly legal, but I’d argue that I’ve never read a law that specifically prohibits force-feeding a lethal amount of dicks down someone’s throat, (though, I’ll admit, I’m almost positive there is one). You may say “I don’t care what you think, DOB,” to which I’d respond, “That’s some tough talk for someone with an acre of dicks in their mouth.”

And even when you meekly protest that they don’t measure dicks in acres, I won’t be able to hear you.

Because of all the dicks.

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Old Dec 27, 2008, 02:07 PM   #68
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Re: Watchmen

The disparity between the reactions towards the trailer is fascinating.

Edit - since most of the responses here have been positive, here's an example of opinions, which are very diametrically opposed.

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Old Dec 27, 2008, 08:52 PM   #69
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Edit - since most of the responses here have been positive, here's an example of opinions, which are very diametrically opposed.

Wow... what a nest of pompous assholes!
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Old Dec 28, 2008, 02:31 PM   #70
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Wow... what a nest of pompous assholes!



And that includes the Alan Moore quote on the next page, I assume? I did find the homophobia/neocon discussion there interesting though.

Despite my melodramatic reaction earlier, I don't consider myself on either side. Rather than taking an extreme position, I actually think this could be a moderately entertaining film - nowhere near as good as the book, but it should be at least light, forgetable fun. I may even just wait for the DVD, or perhaps not at all as I don't feel so strongly about it. I never got round to seeing 300.
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Old Dec 28, 2008, 03:35 PM   #71
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the trouble with this is, like so many adapatations of moore's previous works is this, they all look so good in the trailers but end up being abysmal adaptions or at very best missing the spirit of the original, which while in many cases appeal to the public, stab at the heart of the fans who wanted the comic they read in cinematic form.

now thats not a bad thing necessarily a bad thing, I doubt anyone could accuratly and perfectly replicate Watchmen in cinmatic form, though no doubt many will bemoan it for not being a perfect copy, i'd personally be happy if it came close. that said it's still a rental.

theres no excuse for the game though. thats just sheer money grabbing.
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Old Jan 17, 2009, 08:17 AM   #72
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Well, the matter's settled and the original release date stays. Good news for everyone.
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Old Jan 19, 2009, 10:29 AM   #73
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I just finished reading it when I saw the trailer so I'm really excited about it now. It looks quite faithful... in you know one second scene splices.
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Old Mar 2, 2009, 04:46 PM   #74
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Three days to go and I'm psyched as hell!
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Old Mar 10, 2009, 10:19 AM   #75
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(spoilers for both the book and the film)

Seen it. As expected, as a standalone film, it's okay, neither horrible or brilliant. Unlike the novel, I didn't come out struck with its depth of feeling or thought. Snyder slavishly sticks to the text, recreating almost all the dialogue and panels, and while its interesting, the experience is very hollow. (and, if you haven't read the book, probably very disjointed as well) I really don't know why he wanted to make it as much like the comic as possible, when its a film. Just as Moore exploited the comic medium to its fullest potential, Snyder could have done the same with the film medium, as well as update it to modern times. This is why V For Vendetta, while not perfect, is still the best Moore adaptation. One significant change Snyder attempted, and I surprisingly found quite satisfying, was the ending. The giant squid twist from the graphic novel would not have worked here.

The one aspect of the film that I really hate, and makes me like the film less the more I think about it, is Snyder's typical fetishization of sex and violence. As I ranted before with the trailer, Snyder seems more concerned with making things 'look awesome' instead of understanding Moore's point. Scenes are recreated but the tone is wildly different from the text - I was surprised that even where the Comedian is about to rape Silk Spectre's mother, there's a bizarre 'whooshing' noise as he pushes her onto the table. He also removes one of the most important moments in the book - Rorschach's psychiatrist, his wife and friends having dinner, and basically spelling it out that the violence and vigilantism is psychologically damaging to individuals - and including new stuff, such as Rorschach barking a comeback after attacking another inmate, so the audience is invited to applause instead of feel disturbed. In other words, the film predictably ends up promoting the kind of fascist behaviour the novel was against.

It's probably the best thing Zack Snyder has ever directed though.
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