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Old May 22, 2010, 06:12 PM   #1
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Rise of the Apes

Honestly, does anyone actually want another 'Apes' film?


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James Franco to Get Caught Up in Monkey Business in 'Rise of the Apes'

The 'Spider-Man' actor joins the new movie that will serve as a reboot to the 'Planet of Apes' franchise

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James Franco will don a lab coat in 'Rise of the Apes,' a prequel to 'Planet of the Apes,' according to Variety.

Set in present-day San Francisco, Franco has been cast as an ambitious scientist who plays a pivotal role in the war between humans and apes. The evolutionary timeline is shifted when the two parties get involved in conflict because scientists tinker with genetic engineering in apes. The primates gain intelligence from the experiments and try to take power over people.

Some of the technology behind the stunning cinematography employed in 'Avatar' will be attributed to 'Rise of the Apes' to animate photo-realistic apes instead of suit actors up in elaborate costumes.

According to Variety, production begins on July 5 and 'Apes' is set to rise in theaters on June 24, 2011.
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Old Jun 15, 2010, 07:44 AM   #2
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I will admit I have a soft spot for Apey goodness. Sitting down and watching all of the original films is something I enjoy every few years. Goofy as they might have seemed they were really good action films and well written, even the later throw away films.

Like most, I ignore what Tim Burton did. But I wouldn't mind seeing a remake done right.
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Old Jul 31, 2011, 06:23 AM   #3
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I’m a fan of all the saga and I read criticism of fans even B4 they watched the film which is an absurd. I was one of the defenders analyzing with them the scientific approach which led me to green fluorescence protein taken from jellyfish which make animals GREEN when lit by ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT. Rise of Planet of the Apes (POTA) film happens just in moments they are releasing Green Lantern. I was wondering about why green spray was used by Caesar to free the apes out of bondage.

Now, I hope you don’t get lost in my train of thought , so here I go acknowledging I ignore what’s the interference of the producers in directors and writers’ view because I don’t think this is a mere “coincidence” repeated ad infinitum. I’m well aware in the film a story is being told about Moses/Messiah. What I don’t know is if you already KNEW that was always the case NOT JUST in POTA saga. The helmets worn by gorillas since Ursus in Beneath the Planet of the Apes until Thade and the gorillas in Burton’s film, is helmet-crown a la Yul Brynner in The 10 Commandments! Caesar chose his own name in a book (Conquest of the Planet of the Apes) meaning “hairy” in Latin and we have to remember Heston played in 2 versions of a film about CAESAR. The orangutan who was going to play (he quit due his illness) Dr. Zaius was Edward G. Robinson, famous in his role as Little CAESAR. Caesar chimp was played by Roddy Mc Dowall who played Caesar Augustus in Cleopatra (Egyptian linked to Romans) in the same movie where REX (meaning “king” in Latin) Harrison plays Caesar as well. Ides of MARch… (Cave Idus Martiis) related to CAESAR, of course. Tuesday was the day dedicated to god of war, Mars and Sammael.... March was the month chosen to make war against modern Babylon/Iraq. In Spanish and Italian (the language of Romans) that Tuesday is MARtes which, of course, is planet MARS. That actor REX was the Pope in a film about Michelangelo with Charlton Heston in The Agony and Ecstasy. And Heston was finger-picked to be Moses by DeMille due to his resemblance with Michelangelo’s horned-Moses. That’s because in Hebrew the word used in the Bible (karan) means horns of light.

Here’s the amazing thing. This light is none else St. Elmo’s Fire. It’s an electrical weather phenomenon in which luminous plasma is created by a coronal discharge originating from a grounded object in an atmospheric electric field (such as those generated by thunderstorms created by a volcanic explosion). Elmo's fire is a bright blue or VIOLET GLOW appearing like fire in some circumstances, from tall, sharply pointed structures such as lightning rods, masts, spires and chimneys, and on aircraft wings. St. Elmo's fire can also appear on leaves, grass, and even at the tips of CATTLE HORNS. There’s a subliminal image of Heston (in a film True Lies with Schwarzenegger… who was to play in Oliver Stone version of Planet of the Apes) with horns of light. Arnold was to be the geneticist and the trip to the Neanderthal times was going to be like ALTERED STATES which is a bit like Total Recall and Capricorn One… could be or not.

Edward G. Robinson uses a specific name in Soylent Green: SOL meaning Sun in Spanish (Egyptians were heliolaters). SOL is also the Martian day. That film is about CANIBALISM which is of course related to Last Supper and Passover which is evident in Rise of the Apes film. And it seems AIDS also developed by consumption of simian meat and sex…. During the Passover the GREEN SMOKE kills Egyptians in The Ten Commandments. The name of Burton’s astronaut played by Mark Wahlberg was Leo Davidson which is a Messiah reference. Son of David from Lion Judah tribe. Heston -we know- baptized Christ in The Greatest Story Ever Told and got hope and water by Christ in Judah Ben Hur. He changed Nile river into RED BLOOD in The Ten Commandments. Heston is trespassed with a spear and dies like crucified in a fountain with blood in Omega Man. Omega was the name of the bomb in Beneath the Planet of the Apes.

In Rise Caesar plays with Statue of Liberty toy, the question is: have you noticed Statue of Liberty and Lincoln Monument are Freemason symbols? The first being linked to Ishtar and ISIS (once again Moses was raised as Egyptian). Last scene of Heston in The 10 Commandments rising up his arm like the Statue and saying “Proclaim LIBERTY” and check the position of his arm and of course the very last scene in Planet of the Apes was Heston/Taylor on his knees before "her".

Heston became famous as well in the march for rights given to black people near Lincoln Statue with Marlon Brando, a black author and actors Sidney Poitier and Harry Belafonte and Obama enhances his own view related to Lincoln. What is intriguing is the fact Moses has been linked by Egyptologists and Historians to pharaoh Akenaton who seemed to share the same Marfan Disease attributed to Abraham Lincoln.

Heston supported both Reagan (who did a comedy with a CHIMP “Bedtime for Bonzo”) and Bush. Reagan suffered an assassination plan like Lincoln and Kennedy. Lincoln was called an APE during his time and you can imagine Obama’s enemies. In the U. S., Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton called President Abraham Lincoln “the original gorilla,” and joked that Du Chaillu was a fool to go to Africa for what he could easily have found in Springfield, Illinois. Although Stanton was often at odds with the President (having first called him a “long-armed ape” while working with him on the McCormick-Manney Reaper trial in 1855), Lincoln refused to replace him. As a matter of fact Heston WAS THE VOICE OF ABE LINCOLN in a documentary “The Great Battles of the Civil War” besides playing the president Andrew Jackson in other 1953 film (not to mention he won the medallion given by former president Bush himself, the medallion of LIBERTY).

In Rise we see apes led by Caesar go across the water to the promised land via the bridge. Irvine Campus Social Science Complex in California was the place to film Conquest of POTA. In Jerusalem the EAST GATE is called, sometimes, the Golden Gate. The East Gate is the gate that Jesus came through on Palm SUNday. Usually in Egypt and Mayan lands RED was also linked with the Sun. Mayans even painted their skulls with toxic mercury to dye them red. That could be trivial if were not due to a fact. What? Obama, the confessed Muslim, wants to deliver that very Jerusalem Golden Gate (sacred for both Muslims and Jews) to Muslims triggering a real REVOLUTION! And we know Heston fought Arabs both in Khartoum and El Cid.

Moses being a LAWGIVER (who in Battle of POTA was performed by John Huston who was Noah in a film directed by himself). Moses saved from slaughter in a basket while Caesar is now set in a box; Moses killing a man to save a Jew like him before leading the people out of bondage and Caesar attacking someone to defend the scientist’s dad before getting back to his own kind “let my people go”. Moses facing his doom at Nebo mountain and Taylor in the Forbidden Area. Heston being called Dr. Zaius in Burton’s film with the same name of the orangutan of the 1st film and that being related to ZEUS which is important because Lincoln Memorial is a sort of temple dedicated to Zeus with columns as ribs protecting the heart (the very word “hearts” is noticeable in Burton’s film behind Ape’Braham). Jerusalem Temple, Egyptians and Hindus are often anthropomorphous and the sacred dark and sealed areas corresponded to the heart and mind.

In Battle of POTA we saw apes dwelling in houses on trees as in Burton’s. Caesar’s son, Cornelius (named as the grandpa) wrote on a piece of paper “Apes shall not kill ABE” and was corrected by the human teacher who didn’t see the real meaning of switching the letter P for B of his own name. Ape becomes Abe. That’s interesting considering that was the last film previous to Burton’s film transforming Abraham Lincoln into Ape’Braham Lincoln. At the end of that Battle of POTA the orangutan Virgil compares time-travel to like blind choice of lanes by a driver on an endless motorway and we saw apes dressed like cops riding bikes in Burton’s epilogue. In Battle of POTA the black fellow Mc Donald drops in where in the radioactive city? 11th Avenue and they found the archives of the Presidential Commission on Alien Visitors in 1973 where cameras are monitoring “to forestall ape conspiracies” says Mc Donald literally. Is in that film we are also reminded apes in the past learned to say “no” which is the utterance we’ll hear on Rise of POTA. During the battle humans wear RED sunglasses while using GREEN SMOKE…
(talking about NASA using red filters to hide green chlorophyll on Mars!)
…. but also meaning COVER UP something. Anyway a dialogue of that film (Kolp says this is revealing: “every Caesar shall have its Brutus”…..We know in the French novel the astronauts first go to Soror (which in Latin language is related to "sister" because that alien planet looked like the earth). Yet, for some reason (related to USA desire to insert massively, like Capricorn One or like mind chip as in Total Recall) once again we saw the idea of sending astronauts to Mars. The script writers discussed about ORION in the original film (is linked to Mars 3 volcanoes with the same topographic angles of Orion stars and pyramids in Egypt). The dialogue went on saying the star was too bright to be Bellatrix. In this very moment Walt Disney which did Mission Mars is bombing us with the same idea in John Carter 3D. Yet, in Mission Mars the director Brian Di Palma (using a "religious score" by Italian composer) CHANGES THE ACTUAL CYDONIA FACE completely. Do you remember what happens with Caesar's statue at the end of Battle of POTA? It cries A SINGLE TEAR....like Cydonia's Face. Red Planet (Val Kilmer was an astronaut in that movie and also played Moses in the musical; was Moses voice in animated Prince of Egypt and was a space traveler like Ben Kingsley who also played Moses and HOOD dressed in RED and whose skill was ALTERING MINDS in Thunderbirds). In Total Recall the pyramid mountain was not the straight huge pyramid of the original poster and aligned to planets and moons. The 5th script included a sphinx machine at the core of the planet and that was changed.

I decoded the whole hidden message: Let the SUN shine on Mars, let’s GREEN (use of ultraviolet light?) the not-so red planet Mars which was Lost Eden given mainly to our ancestral the Egyptians and Sumerians. Let’s RED the earth with blood offered to the god of war as a proper holocaust in handpicked dates for wars. Let’s create the proper atmosphere and CLOUDS on Martian land.

Something else drew my attention. In Mission Mars we see a typhoon swallowing some astronauts. That was the sphinx’s dad Typhon like a snake. In mythology Oedipus king had to solve the sphinx’s riddle and when he did the sphinx suicides herself. The Cydonia Head was changed in the film rather than the feline/SIMIAN head with bilateral asymmetry. That head blows up when the DNA riddle -related to certain sound- was decoded by the black astronaut and the other one who was also the actor of Apollo 13. Then the ET teaches Panspermia via virtual reality hologram. Mankind was sowed by them who came from somewhere else as well. The astronaut who discovered the riddle goes to the lap of the gods with them (who knows maybe in Orion). Henceforth if IN THIS RISE OF THE APES, CAESAR BEHAVES LIKE HAVING OEDIPUS COMPLEX it wouldn’t be a surprise at all!

We know both in Mission Mars and Capricorn One (a film about hoax trip to Mars) included black astronauts. Who gave the idea of wiping out the black fellow in the car in Rise of the Apes? In Mission Mars we see a single black astronaut, 2 white astronauts and other one remaining in the craft plus a woman. In Planet of the Apes there are 2 whites and a black astronaut, the lieutenant Steward dies. In Capricorn One there's one black astronaut played by O.J. Simpson and two white astronauts. I wonder if this is related to Osiris and Isis Freemason rituals or to biological stuff adapted to Mars in different races. I suggest the investigation of Brian Desborough, a UFO researcher, and the reptilian (paleoastraonutica) who said this:

"If white people are immersed in containers that are deprived of sensory perception for longer periods of time, their circadian rhythm enter a frequency of one hour and 24 minutes, which corresponds to the period of rotation of Mars, not Earth! This phenomenon does not occur in the other breeds, which are in perfect resonance with the Earth’s rotation.” If this is true or not, I ignore.

A would be astronaut on Mars would see the Face with teeth and that tear (perhaps the whole Face painted red) and reflecting his own face on the water. Earth coming out from behind the mouth and followed by the Sun once a year. That scenario belongs to thousands of years IN THE PAST and I suggest reading Hoagland’s The Monuments of Mars, A City at the Edge of Forever. That fellow got the idea –with Carl Sagan- to send Pioneer X to space, he’s not an amateur idiot and doesn’t work alone. What I DO KNOW is Bush’s administration did a poster about Martian ruins with negro profile in heads like Rapa Nui and Obama wants to invest trillions to send astronauts to Mars though America does have other priorities.

I suggest this for a sequel: Since Mission Mars didn’t present the real Face and any common person could discuss the hazardous idea of teletransport chrononauts or apenauts who will be vaporized and just send copies of himself (herself) or turned into spaguetti-astronauts within a wormhole, you MUST use for a sequel (or any other director whom you know and hand down this paper) an INTELLIGENT DIALOGUE which DECEIVES the audience like we were in the original film. Mars -we know- presents evidence of METHANE related to volcanic or green vegetation activity and NASA used red filters to hide green chlorophyll. Methane is very potent GREENHOUSE GAS. The astronauts could discuss -like they did in 2001 Space Odyssey- about the secrets of not revealing green forests in Mars; and Cydonia Face has to be seen as it is: with a SIMIAN bilateral asymmetry (the other one is feline) and with the single tear we saw in Caesar’s Statue at Battle of POTA (and I may add it has a sole horn on the forehead). I won’t explain in detail here what is already known. This “pareidolia” image was never an eroded mountain but flattened by NASA with high-pass filters, indirect photographs that make elliptical what is round, wiping out shadows and taken the photos after the storm swept the whole planet. This process is called ortorectification and created the famous Cat Box altered image. In the original Planet of the Apes it was the dialogue, the odd thunder and lightning with no rain and strange luminosity, no moon and half an hour in the desert what cheated Taylor (and us). So, the sequel could present things in such a way we could wonder if that’s Mars or Earth in past, present or future. Just like Nefertiti one-eyed is about parallax. We can’t stare straight to the Sun, we cry and we get blind. At the same time when we close one eye the focus changes the angle of perception. That’s what they did in ancient civilizations as we learned from Maurice Cotterell’s books and others. Is about the perception of the Sun as seen from Martian perspective. After all the Face is staring up the sky like Peruvian ruins in Marcahuasi plateau.

Of course, NO POTA FAN has ever been able to discuss how come there are horses in other planet (not taken there by men) or how come astronauts didn’t realize they were on earth when they saw earthy horses. If the directors used blue unicorns (as in Star Trek 5) or 6-legged fluorescent horses with okapi strips like in Avatar, they would’ve known better.

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Old Jul 31, 2011, 06:27 AM   #4
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I know, I know, it's better to see the images. Indulge yourself with PATIENCE to check each and every single photo, perhaps you see better my point. How many are there? 39 + or - ?

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Old Jul 31, 2011, 06:59 AM   #5
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I know 99.9 % won't have pacience.
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Old Aug 7, 2011, 12:20 PM   #6
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Among Freemason directors, Cecil B. De Mille who did The 10 Commandments, William Wyler who did Ben Hur and producer Zanuck:
http://www.illuminati-news.com/famous-freemasons.htm
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That actor REX was the Pope in a film about Michelangelo with Charlton Heston in The Agony and Ecstasy. And Heston was finger-picked to be Moses by DeMille due to his resemblance with Michelangelo’s horned-Moses. That’s because in Hebrew the word used in the Bible (karan) means horns of light.

Here’s the amazing thing. This light is none else St. Elmo’s Fire. It’s an electrical weather phenomenon in which luminous plasma is created by a coronal discharge originating from a grounded object in an atmospheric electric field (such as those generated by thunderstorms created by a volcanic explosion). Elmo's fire is a bright blue or VIOLET GLOW appearing like fire in some circumstances, from tall, sharply pointed structures such as lightning rods, masts, spires and chimneys, and on aircraft wings. St. Elmo's fire can also appear on leaves, grass, and even at the tips of CATTLE HORNS. There’s a subliminal image of Heston (in a film True Lies with Schwarzenegger… who was to play in Oliver Stone version of Planet of the Apes) with horns of light.

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Now, do you think is another funny "coincidence" the fact in this Rise of POTA there's a tv showing a scene from that very movie The Agony and Ecstasy?
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As you all know, I've been very vocal about my unconditional support for that planet of apes movie from ten years ago with Tim Roth in it. I still stand by my statements, because I have nothing better to do, but now, either way you look at it, you will arrive at the conclusion that Planet of the Apes belongs in the 60s.

I don't know what the hell this new movie is supposed to do. Is it like that dumb Terminator: Rise of the Whatever: Redemption Conclusion movie, but with apes instead of robots? With "animate[d] photo-realistic apes instead of [...] actors [...] in elaborate costumes"? Why, that certainly sounds like the epic meh-fest of the decade.
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