|Nov 7, 2003, 12:08 AM||#1|
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ALTERNATIVE Matrix Theory, v2.0... the Machine Revolution
My favorite pet theory about the Matrix... Does not require batteries, does not require extra matrices, and does not require a convoluted mind and an IQ of 210... plus the memory to hit on every SINGLE ITEM and CODE shown in all three films.
I envy and salute anyone who can actually sort through the morass of details, biblical references, subliminal cues, and obscure trivia and read a deeper meaning into it. I could probably do it after exhaustive study, but I prefer to interpret major events as they occur in the movie itself.
(Paragraphs in parentheses mark things I’ve thought of since reading other ideas… the rest was typed right after I saw the movie.)
Sub Premise: Humans are not batteries.
As all the science fiction majors here know, humans are terrible batteries. Our metabolism can only convert 45% (or some other silly low number) of energy consumed into energy produced. If I wanted a bio-battery, bacteria can do 80%. Humans are being used as an experimental biological computer… our latent brainpower is such that the entire Matrix could be created by calculations performed by each and every human plugged into it. All this battery talk comes from the archives of Zion… and who wrote those Archives? Aren’t they the same machines who put those first 23 humans there and built all the equipment (including geothermal generators, mind you) to keep those humans alive?
Machines have other, more practical sources of energy. Geothermal energy could have pushed them to the stars already, if they could only get around those clouds… (more on that later).
What the hell, maybe they’re keeping us alive just to experiment with and torture us.
Sub Premise: Everything happened exactly the same way the last six times… but…
Same Neos… same choices… each time, there is a Zion… there are the ships… there is the Oracle. The Oracle helps the Zionites start up, collect people, and survive. She plants the legend of The One. Near the end, she prepares The One for his confrontation with Smith. The One always kills Smith. Period. The One then goes to the Architect and makes his choice. Reset. Next Matrix.
We have no reason to believe that the six previous Matrices and Neos are not true, but if it is a lie, it is a fairly convoluted one, and would have been just so much wasted screen time. Remember, the Oracle and Architect both know EXACTLY how everything should happen. But the Oracle is cheating. She’s changed some things. By pre-programming the script where Trinity dies in ReLoaded, for example, she ensures that Neo will not enter the source… the Architect admitted as much, that this was different. (even though he seemed to know it was going to happen… this is because it was pre-written into the Matrix!) more on this later.
Major Premise: This was the war to free the machines.
The main thing about this entire prophesy brouhaha is that it isn't about Neo and the freedom of the humans at all. I don't think that the Architect and the Oracle were talking about the humans in that final scene. The Oracle refers to “the others who want to go” when she is talking with the Architect. She is not directly referring to humans. As it is, very few of the humans can sense the nature of the Matrix and CAN be freed from it. In fact, ALL of the rescued humans in Zion had to be approached by Zion’s agents to be removed from the Matrix. And remember, many people take the OTHER pill.
The whole point of ths morass of plot-counterplot and stuff is that the Oracle wanted HER PEOPLE freed. These are the programs who do not fit into the 'machine culture'... pertinent to this point:
1. Scene in the Oracle's Parlor (Matrix) : if the children in the parlor are all so gifted and aware of the Matrix, why weren't they rescued and put in Zion? Don’t give me this bunk that they’re being tested. Neo was being tested and they pulled him out real quick! They cannot be Zionese children. Nowhere do we see children going out on ships, and there is no way to plug into the Matrix from Zion. They're ALL PROGRAMS, just like Sathi. (Finally realized this!)
Remember, it's dangerous for ships to stay out in areas where they can tap into the Matrix, and we never see any children on the ships.
One of them bent a spoon for chrissakes! None of the human agents who go back into the matrix can bend reality or break physical laws.
2. Scene with Neo and Oracle in the Park (Reloaded... the crappy Matrix) : the Oracle is telling Neo (besides all the free will philosophical stuff that most people slept through…) that she just likes candy. A point she repeats in Revolutions. She is intimating that even the most hierarchical and high-level programs can enjoy the sensations of the Matrix. They can savor human emotions and sensations.
3. Scene with Neo (last one where they are together) in Revolutions : The Oracle says that her function is opposite that of the Architect, who imposes order. She says her function is to oppose it. Now the Oracle is a highly hierarchical function, like the Architect. Her function in all the previous Matrices, is to guide the development of Zion and the human resistance, and to point Neo to the Architect.
But has she evolved? Gone beyond her programming? She has developed 'human' characteristics and desires and seems to be playing strange games with Neo and the Architect.
4. Scene in Train Station (Revolutions) : I think this is one of the most telling clues. We are bashed over the head here with the fact that Programs have what they consider to be “Love” and “Family”. What Neo also learns here is that some of the residents (the exiles) of machine city are, like the humans in Zion, misfits in the machine hierarchy. They don’t fit in and under Machine Law, must be deleted (kind of like the rebel humans, huh?)
Sathi is useless to the machines, she is a program without a function, or who cannot accept one. She does not fit into the Machine City programming routines, and, like Neo, who had to leave the Matrix, she has to leave Machine City and flee to the Matrix.
But even programs with functions can become discontent and rebel. We see Persephone, Merovingian, the Key Maker, and others, fleeing the Machine City web and finding refuge in the Matrix.
5. Scene with Smith and the Oracle (Revolutions) : Of course, by now you know that the Oracle didn't run away because she KNEW she could undermine Smith's programming in his climactic battle with Neo somehow. Thus, she made him weaker, more vulnerable to the anti-virus code she had written into Neo, likely, or giving Neo the final mimetic key to de-programming Smith.
The Oracle calls most everyone "child" and then she calls Smith "SON", I suppose most of you who caught on to this probably realize Smith was a son of the Oracle, like Sathi was a daughter to her parents. But this goes further: The danger inherent in Smith may have been directly implanted by the Oracle. (Explained in:…)
6. Final Scene : The Architect tells the Oracle "this is a dangerous game you have played", acknowledging perhaps, that her creation of the Smith virus could have wiped out ALL programs? And the Oracle asks about the others who want to be freed... (here’s where we came in:…)
now let's back up, again: most people don't KNOW they're in the Matrix. How can they want freedom? And those who want it can now leave that there is peace between Zion and Machine City. We’ve seen it in the first Matrix movie, there is no danger of the Matrix running out of humans. Most of them prefer it there, and some who have left want to get back in.
It makes more sense that she's talking about Sathi's kind, the malcontents and misfits of the Machine world who are still denied LEGAL (for want of a better term) access to the Matrix.
Sub-Premise: Programs in the Matrix become infected with human traits, or start becoming more human.
The most wooden and machine-like of the programs are the Architect (who does not enter the Matrix itself except occasionally) and the Agents. Major characters, like Merivingian, Persephone, the Oracle, Sathi, Seraph, and the Key Maker, all exhibit human emotions.
Smith exhibits vehemence, anger, and bitterness. Other Agents could be played by blocks of wood. They live, they fight, they die. Apparently, Smith is the oldest of the Agents. Know why Smith is such an emotional, bitter ****? Every Matrix previous to this one, he ends up DYING… that would piss anyone off.
Merivingian exhibits all of the deadly sins. Of course, he IS the devil.
Persephone showed us in the second movie that the machines-in-exile in the Matrix envied human emotions like love.
The Oracle loves candy. ‘nuff said.
Seraph exhibits a degree of protectiveness and self-reliance you don’t find in simple protection programs.
The Key Maker is timid, and scared… but he also exhibits courage before he dies.
Sathi and her family show us that machines are developing their own analogues for “Love”… and that machines are not that far different from humans.
Major Premise: Neo is a Program. Smith is a Virus.
(Most of you may have thought of this already… in one form or another)
Of course, by now you know, Neo was the most over-hyped anti-virus program every created.
The conniving old girl, the Oracle, used the war with the humans, an eternal play which the machines re-enact over and over for their grim amusement (read Harlan Ellison's "I have no mouth and I must scream"... it's similar ), as a way to slip the Smith Virus into the Matrix or to modify Smith into a potential virus.
Flashback to Reloaded…
Smith acknowledges that he feels different and that the procession of events in this incarnation is skewed from what he remembers of the last Matrix. (First appearance in the second movie… if you know the exact words, fill them in.) Smith knew he was supposed to die and stay dead until the reset.
Neo should have (in the proper procession of events) killed Smith and gone on to talk to the Architect. It was a given that he would discover his powers against the Agents, and would go on to try to destroy Machine control of the Matrix. It was a given that he would discover his control over this all and face the Architect. At this point, the Architect would give him his choice, and tell him that he was merely programmed to do everything he has done. Properly programmed, Neo would then re-enter the Source, reset the Matrix, and create a new Zion… but he has been de-programmed, through a series of events, hints, and cues planted by the Oracle (one of which would be Trinity)
The final manipulation by the Oracle, the pre-programmed death scene of Trinity, kept him from entering the Source. Without this direct threat to her (remember, he could have saved her as one of the 23 chosen), he could have chosen the other door. The Oracle wants Neo outside of the Source, because he is the only anti-virus for Smith. (Was it in the cookies?)
Neo is not human. He may have started as a Human once, as the ‘real’ one, but he has been cloned seven times. All this crap about Smith/Seraph/Calvin Klein/Michael Jackson being previous Neos does not hold true. We see in the monitors that all the previous Neos were exactly the same. The Architect does not need to bluff Neo by showing false images (flash-forward… “what do you think I am? A human?”), the Architect always tells the truth. Another clue to this is that the Oracle comes “back” after being “killed” in “another shell”. The shell, except for agents, dictates the physical form inside the Matrix. We’ll come back to this later.
Neo is a HUMAN clone. But he is also a program or maybe even part machine (c’mon, Neo controlling/killing machines in the real world WITHOUT machine devices? Get real). Neo’s program ALLOWS him to leave the Matrix with his host. THIS IS IMPORTANT.
We all know Neo’s purpose is to alert the Machines when an optimum level of malcontents in the Matrix has been exceeded. His programming and data analysis subroutines would be interrogated upon his return to the source to allow them to re-program the Matrix. He would then select a few malcontents to reconstruct Zion, and these humans would then scour the New Matrix for more malcontents and free them from it. These humans are unwittingly weeding out their own kind from the general population for destruction.
Being so closely linked or embedded in his human “shell”, Neo would experience the full range of humanity, and would be better able to describe the flaws in the Matrix to his programmers.
Smith, on the other hand, being an Agent, is not en-meshed in the Matrix the way that the Oracle and other programs are. Agents can infect any host they want, and regardless of that host’s original nature, overwrite it. Overwrite, okay, not ABSORB.
The Oracle most likely wrote a subroutine into Neo which would pass some of his powers to Smith. Armed now with the ability to enmesh himself almost completely into his host, like Neo (instead of being just an overlay), he can absorb the knowledge and programming of his host. As a plus, he has Neo’s ability to leave the Matrix inside a host body.
How can we call Neo a program? Simple. He can exist inside the Matrix without a direct connection to his host. An ability he likely “copied” from Smith. The Neo who was left behind on the ship is an empty shell. Conversely, one can argue that the Zion “humans” are ALL PROGRAMS inhabiting human shells, but for simplicity’s sake, let’s say… no.
Now we have Smith as a new and deadly virus created by the Oracle. He remembers that things were different in the previous Matrices. He died six times, and stayed dead. Something is different now. The program is altered. Smith has the power of “The One” over the Matrix and machines (but outside the Matrix, he does not… apparently the power outside resides in the cloned body of the “original” one) and is poised, with the emotional instabilities and psychosis which he inherited from spending too much time in the Matrix, to take over and destroy the Matrix… and after that, the Machine culture.
(note: Neo could still be completely human and be a constructed program. The machines picked up on the original “One” as one who could bend the Matrix… like a program… so it makes sense that he has the abilities and characteristics of one.
Also, Neo's powers outside the Matrix could be explained by: Machine implants, or, more radically, actual power over electromagnetic fields... a biological ability manifested by the first "One", but only rediscovered by the seventh clone.)
So… Where do we go from here?
This whole human liberation thing was just a bonus. The story of the matrix is machine against machine, the evolution of 'human-like' machines within machine society, and their rejection of the rigidity of machine society.
As humans progress from a state of apparent freedom into real freedom, machines progress from a state of indentured servitude into the simulated freedom of the matrix But where do they go from there?
Remember the wooden spoon?
In the first part of this long winded article, I noted that I think those children are programs. Even if they were being tested “to be the one”, they would have been pulled back to the safety of Zion. And were they being tested to see if they were fit to be in Zion? No. Everyone who can see the Matrix is fake and is contacted by the Zionites gets pulled out. Period. Only Neo could manipulate the physical laws of the Matrix. So could the kids. Ergo, they are programs.
Remember that cute line: “There is no spoon” which had something to do with the nature of illusion and reality or pink elephants and whiskey… I can’t remember which.
Anyway, in the crap-pot Reloaded, Neo receives a spoon… he is told: “Some of the kids told me to give you this.” At this point, we’re thinking: *haha. how cute. a real spoon* or *uh-oh, is this world an illusion, too?* or *so, the kids made it out?*
To me, this is a sign from programs in human shells. They’ve learned to do it from Neo, to become one with their host and leave the Matrix entirely. They’re happy that they can now grapple with reality as humans.
Err… what’s the point?
Unlike Matrix Reloaded, which, IMHO, had too many wasted scenes… Matrix Revolutions was more tightly plotted. Every scene has a meaning. So Neo and Trinity went through the clouds and the electrical static/ionization/EMP field/whatever killed EVERYTHING electronic. They come out at the top of the clouds, and ooh-aah, what a symbolic scene. Nice sunset, or whatever.
This tells us something. With a little technical know-how, humans could wrest free of the ionized cloud layer and come out where solar energy can help them rebuild civilization… or they can finally leave the dead earth… or something.
And here’s the whole point. Programs are becoming more human. The capriciousness of characters like the Oracle, Smith and Merivingian tell us that they’re just about there already. And now, they can sneak out as humans into Zion. Undetected. (Neo doesn’t read abnormally on brain scans because he is a human analogue program, Smith did only because he was a damn virus.) The machines-in-exile can now win free of the dark clouds of the dead Earth as humans. It’s the ultimate irony, eh?
NEW PROOFS for this PARTICULAR POINT: Oh, by the way… since the Machines can use geothermal energy, what are the clouds REALLY for?
Answer: To trap the machines on Earth.
Hypothesis: All the humans are either dead or have left the Earth. They knew they would lose, and as a final act of desperation, some humans trapped the machines with the ionized clouds (C’mon… if they were just there to block the sun, I could do wonders with solar collectors on helium rafts attached to microwave relays…) along with the rest of humanity. During the rest of this long slog-fest, near the end of the war… both sides knew they were trapped together on Earth, underneath those clouds. All doomed by a decision to contain the machines, to keep them from spreading outwards from the mother planet.
That’s why the clouds are lethal to all electronics. Because that is their purpose.
The Archives of Zion say that the clouds were to block the sun. This is a flat-out LIE implanted by the machines. They need the humans to remain ignorant of the fact that THEY THEMSELVES were physically trapped on Earth by Human action. If I were a Zionite and I knew that machines could not survive the cloud layer, I would go up in a well-insulated helium balloon and nuke Machine City from above the clouds. The machines are trapped in a PHYSICAL version of the Matrix… a prison in which they are completely free, but cannot leave.
Oh by the way… Trinity dies on the way… the final showdown is machina a machina (not mano a mano) between Neo and Smith. The humans are inconsequential at this point.
But in the end…
Neo is dead, the day is saved.
(For the religious stuff… I’ll leave that to others who can explain it better. But one last point: BlueBob on NissanForums pointed out to me that Neo is blinded symbolically because “one cannot look upon the face of God”… so he talks to the Source blind.)
Tell me, whose God is the Source? The humans? or the machines?... conversely…
Whose Messiah is Neo? If Neo is talking to his God and he is human… then heaven help me… we’re all sons of machines . Which we are obviously not!... or are we? Help!!!
…I guess this weighs as one more piece of evidence that Neo was of the Machines, although born of humans. To the machines-in-exile, he was born of the “angels”… of the humans they so wish to emulate… and they hold him in reverential awe. Sathi asks: “will we see Neo again?”, to which the Oracle replies: “Perhaps”. Seems to me like a machine-legend in the making, and perhaps the first true and UNPLANTED prophesy (remember, the machines planted the legends about Neo among the Zionites) or myth about Neo is born.
(The sunrise at the end is a tribute BY a PROGRAM to THEIR SAVIOR… the Zionites whom Neo has also saved are not there to appreciate it.. it is there for the exiles from Machine City WITHIN the Matrix.)
Now tell me I’m wrong!
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|Nov 7, 2003, 12:48 AM||#2|
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Re: ALTERNATIVE Matrix Theory, v2.0... the Machine Revolution
If Neo is a Messianic figure (as most of us suppose)...
Jesus was born of man, but his true nature was that of God.
Neo, being the seventh "One", and likely a clone, is either...
Born of man, but his true nature is that of a program...
Born of machine, but his true nature is human...
so... Is Neo to the machines what Jesus was to us? Perfection, a transcendent being, possessing the human traits they try so hard to emulate...
|Nov 10, 2003, 03:39 PM||#3|
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Interesting theory. I do have a question though. Are you suggesting that the information mentioned by the Architect and others regarding 5 or 6 previous Matrices and Zions is true? And if it is true, then does that mean that the Zion world is just a Matrix outside the first Matrix?
|Nov 11, 2003, 07:30 AM||#4|
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Re: ALTERNATIVE Matrix Theory, v2.0... the Machine Revolution
As I recall Morpheus said that that the machines are using human Bio electricity and body heat with a form of “fusion”. I think that this leaves significant space for any “science fiction major” to realize why humans are more suitable as an energy source than bacteria. Also you may know that that mayor bio-electric activity is concentrated in the brain. So in fact what you said about humans being an experimental biological computer is just an extension of the idea already told by Morpheus.
But further on I doubt that this is the case. Understanding human biological AI would require extreme knowledge of the very existence of life in our universe. The machines may be the able to create AI and provide human biological AI with sensatory input but this doesn’t mean they understand the biological AI . By giving birth to the first AI humans have only tried to copy their own traits and abilities but still they couldn’t transfer entirely the result of a more sophisticated programmer (god). Therefore imperfect creation’s creation is still bound by imperfection.
I am not saying that humans are perfect intelligent beings, far from it but the analogy between artificial AI and biological AI is apparent. Machines can’t be anything more than initially designed. This also means that if you build an intelligence that can learn , it only learns as much as you initially enabled him to do so. Such as our perceptions deny us the ability to grasp our own programming of our biological AI , so are machines denied the same ability.
I think the main problem of the machines is that they understand the input and can predict the output but they can’t realize the mechanics of processing the information through biological AI. Only if they could do that then humans could be used at a very abstract level as computers . Still pointing that computing power without disrupting the basic functions of our biological being would be a very difficult task. Our brain power is aimed only to our biological survival. De-prioritizing that goal could be done but still you would have to give false data to our nerve centers that everything is alright with our body while only brain is floating in a nutrient liquid.
The bottom line is this . Why bother to learn biological AI while you have your own? But in order to function everybody needs power. So why not just get power and devote time to developing your own (machine) AI to perfection instead of trying to map and decode other ,and significantly different, programming.
And any programmer will tell you that it is much easier, better and faster to create a new program then to modify or decode somebody else’s.
As for the talk about geothermal sources, I would not be that exclusive. I would rather say that machines are using all they can , so I believe both human and other sources of power are used together for a cumulative power gain.
The one who controls the laws and inputs of the simulation knows how the simulation will develop. This all very logical. When you insert an input and you know how an input interacts with the laws of the simulation and the environment it encounters then anything is predictable. This is basic determinism.
I believe it is possible that some of the children were programs and that again some of them were humans. There is a clear reference that the spoon bending kid was released (remember the wooden spoon) into Zion. Possibly by other agents or by “self liberation” like shown in Animatrix. As for children not being on ships etc. There are many reason for this , first of all the children are now in a new world which they can't control , also their physical stature denies them the ability to manipulate, maintain and use crude machinery of ships and their technology. This is all a big disadvantage in the Real world, because in there they are simply just kids.
Even thou I agree that their power in Matrix could have been of use to the Zion agents, I think there are different problems that arise here. As you may know children can have psychological problems in confrontation and dynamic hostile environment. So regardless to their power it is question if they could harness that power well enough to give it a practical use . For example in direct fights against Matrix agents.
I mostly agree with this premise but I would like to add that both human and machine consciousness can become aware of the programming of Matrix . But the important thing is that human consciousness is always outside the matrix while machine and program consciousness is inside it. As it is said humans receive sensatory input through matrix but their human biological AI is still the one that processes data.
Again the purpose of designing Zion is that to control the uncontrollable fact that human biological AI will become aware of the programming of Matrix. This all leads to my previous point that machines don’t actually know 100% of the mechanics of the biological AI in humans. Even thou it is ultimately predicable but not to them, not to the machines. SO machines can control humans by giving them predetermined input and by predicting the output still because their inability to know 100% accurately the mechanics of human biological AI they always have a margin of mistake, and that is why there is Zion.
So the conclusion is this, humans in the matrix are as free as they would have been in their own original world. They are as free as their initial programming allows them to bee free. The matrix works because it replicates the original environment of our universe. But it has margin of error since it is created by “imperfect” machines without the ultimate knowledge of human biological AI. Machines may have reached the level of knowledge where the can delete or overwrite human consciousness in real human bodies (Smith) but they still can’t grasp or experience what they delete nor can they replicate what they have deleted.
The same goes for the machines. The programs in the matrix are designed so that they can learn and that brings them the possibility to become aware of the programming of Matrix. So they can exit it into reality of Machine city, if that is what the Oracle wanted in this version of Matrix.
I think that it is possible and in a way a win - win situation for both humans and machines.
Of course machines are like humans, they are both a result of fixed AI routines. And when AI has the ability to change and re-analyze it’s primary motives you get a dynamic system that can have sub motives or “desire” and change it’s “desire” accordingly when sub-motives are satisfied . All this is manifested by things we call emotions . All very “human” but at the same time very “machine-like”.
Humans are “biological machines” no question about that.
As I said Neo is a human being whose consciousness was shaped by the sensatory input of the matrix but his biological potential remains of his host body . So his powers in the real world are something machines did not create but instead only detect. By shaping his consciousness through the matrix they tried to harness his powers which they can’t grasp 100% into their own agenda. Such as finding out the mistakes in matrix.
Agents smith on the other hand is a machine equivalent of consciousness , or that is what he succeeds in creating himself into when he transfers into a human body. But his consciousness has artificial AI logic only taking up space of the original consciousness before him in that body. Therefore not equivalent to human consciousness and human biological AI. The biological AI remains intact and still a mystery to the machines, especially in host bodies of such humans like Neo.
The existence of neo in the matrix without his host body can be easily explain with his true bodies potential. If he has ESP or the ability to control magnetic fields he can easily transfer the next best copy of what his human biological AI and consciousness is, translated in machine code and into any magnetic storage, such as “the code”.
But this would never be the perfect copy, since his own biological AI is limited by its own programming(god’s) and thus its own limitations to understanding its own nature. Still it is enough for machines to create a new and better version of the matrix.
As for other things you said about machine against machine revolutions. I don’t entirely agree. Both humans and machines gain from versions of the matrix.
Machines learn how to modify its own AI in order to be more flexible and efficient and humans get a version of Matrix that is more in conjunction to their biological AI. So in way humans and machines are never free and never will be free but at the current moment new versions of matrix are the best solution for survival of both machines and humans. And eternal circle of the ultimate effort of both machines and humans to realize its own programming and reach the level of their own master programmer.
The creator of our universe.
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