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Old May 23, 2006, 06:23 PM   #1
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Question G1 Ultra Magnus was a reverse triple changer + other thoughts.

G1 Ultra Magnus was a reverse triple changer being the toy had 2 robot modes. The white cab turned into a white clone of Optimus Prime for the smaller 1st robot mode. The white OP robot then merged with the car carrier to make the larger 2nd robot mode, which is all we saw in the cartoons & comic books.

The only media exception are issues of the Dreamwave G1 TF comic books ( which I've never actually read but heard about this from other TF aficionados ) where they show the small white OP clone robot mode of UM to illustrate Magnus & Prime's being siblings Anyway it would have been groovy (to me anyway) if the cartoon or TF:TM or the Marvel comic books had shown the white OP robot mode of UM.

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What if G1 Ultra Magnus had been made the powermaster & binary bonded to Hi-Q instead of G1 Optimus Prime?

Suppose G1 Ultra Magnus had been Nebulanized in some other way: double headmaster ala G1 Fort Max? triple or quadruple targetmaster & the official Autobot Targetmaster Commander? headmaster & powermaster simultaneously & a targetmaster to boot?
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Old May 23, 2006, 07:58 PM   #2
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Re: G1 Ultra Magnus was a reverse triple changer + other thoughts.

Your reading way too much into this.

the simple fact is, as a toy the transformation of a complete unit ultra magnus would be overly complex, and probably would have been too weak and have broken easily.

Indeed. The white prime mode, is not officially recognised, so while in fact it is a second robot mode, officially it doesn't exist, Also from a comercial standpoint, why bother developing a new cab transformation and mold, when you have an existing cab transformation (and mold) and it would be easier (and more cost effective) to build what is essentially an extension or giant armour for it.

The unofficial answer to the prime and magnus similarity is that ultra magnus used to be Dion, orion pax's best friend, and would have subsequently been rebuilt by Alpha trion (who would have built upon a prooven design)

Any speculation on powermaster bonding is very difficult to answer exactly, especially considering the vast differences between prime and ultra magnus.

Even supposing Magnus had been nebulanized, I think it most likly he would be a single headmaster, nothing else.

when it gets down to it, the toy had the prime cab because it was cheaper than developing a new toy, however, it should be noted that the ultra magnus master piece is essentially just a white version of optimus prime.
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