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28 Days Later (2002)

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Old Jun 9, 2004, 07:29 AM   #46
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Re: 28 days Later: Whose Fault?

I'm talking method.

Not cause.

I'm not talking about targeting innocent people for blind devotion. I'm talking retribution of crimes. Like 9/11, or the Madrid Train bombings. The people who perpetrated those events, should, in my view, be impalled and left on the city walls.

Barbaric? Yes. But hardly enough for the suffering they caused, and the pure cruelty that drives them.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 07:34 AM   #47
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I'm talking method.

Not cause.

I'm not talking about targeting innocent people for blind devotion. I'm talking retribution of crimes. Like 9/11, or the Madrid Train bombings. The people who perpetrated those events, should, in my view, be impalled and left on the city walls.

Barbaric? Yes. But hardly enough for the suffering they caused, and the pure cruelty that drives them.

I understand. According to your philosophy the Iraqies have justification to level New york city to the ground.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 07:41 AM   #48
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ok whats the difference between personal revenge and political revenge? as a person im not out to win a few votes on the blood of innocent people or to look good for the cameras.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 07:41 AM   #49
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I understand. According to your philosophy the Iraqies have justification to level New york city to the ground.


No, you do not understand.

You're making two big mistakes: You're generalizing, and you're reaching for extremes. You can't point at a complex situation like Iraq and say A+B=C. That does not make for an informative conversation.

The people of Iraq have been freed from a terrible dictator that killed his own people, and led them in a series of never-ending wars. That is cause for them to rejoice.

On the other hand, the means of methods for this attack were wrong. That gives them cause for retribution.

But the problem here is far more complex, because of mentality. That is why you're wrong to generalize. When the Allies landed on D-Day, they killed tens of thousands of french civilians in the preliminary bombardment. But the French welcomed them and supported them. They knew it was a necessary evil to rid themselves of a greater one.

The Iraqis do not. It's a consequence of indoctrination and anti-Western mentality, fueled by watching cruise missiles land on their backyards.

Situations are never black-and-White, POS. One must consider every aspect of it.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:09 AM   #50
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But the problem here is far more complex, because of mentality.

Perfect. That's what I was looking for.

All parties have different mentalities and perspectives. One party's perspective will demand swift retribution for reasons of nationalism, the other's for reasons of religion. So which is correct?

Metality is only a problem when it's backward and non-progressive. So if mentality is the problem then metality is what must be changed.

Now, which nations are due for some mentality alteration. The Arab nations for sure; India with its backward hinduism (that's a bloody revolution in the waiting); China had its mentality alteration and now it's doing a good job changing the metality of those backward Tibetans; and lastly the South American nations are due for some more mentality change.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:15 AM   #51
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so should we all join hands and live happily ever after rb? maybe drink a coke and teach the world to sing?
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:17 AM   #52
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I was being serious.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:20 AM   #53
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China had its mentality alteration and now it's doing a good job changing the metality of those backward Tibetans;

After eading this, I'd hope you weren't being serious.

You actually sanction the slaughter of MONKS?! That's beneath human.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:23 AM   #54
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China had its mentality alteration and now it's doing a good job changing the metality of those backward Tibetans;


And what exactly would you call backwards?

The tibetians have lived in harmony for thousands of years,they have lived off the land (which is not an easy job in that part of the world) and have lived in perfect harmony for a long long time.

The chinese on the other hand hand who already own an extremely large part of the planet have decided to control tibete,which is strategically and militarilly ideal for them.

Do they care about the tibetan culture,have they tried to what you probably would call CIVILISE them??

No,they have controlled the people and the country through sheer terror.
They have abused and taken advantage of the resources and the people,they have ostrocised them from the rest of the world and left them in sheer poverty and all in the name of what??

You might to choose to call that "changing a country's mentality" i choose to call it abuse of power and destruction of a country and its people!

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You actually sanction the slaughter of MONKS?! That's beneath human.


Enough said.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:25 AM   #55
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After eading this, I'd hope you weren't being serious.

You actually sanction the slaughter of MONKS?! That's beneath human.

If it's for a healthy and progressive cause then I'd acquiesce to the public hanging of the catholic pope.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:25 AM   #56
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I guess POS must consider Tian-a-men the perfect crowd control methodology.

You're too extreme to be true.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:26 AM   #57
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If it's for a healthy and progressive cause then I'd acquiesce to the public hanging of the catholic pope.


I weep for the species or rather for you!
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:28 AM   #58
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I guess POS must consider Tian-a-men the perfect crowd control methodology.


So Pos if you were the tank driver would you have ran that student over?
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:29 AM   #59
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Forget tanks. Just keep her away from diplomatic offices.
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Old Jun 9, 2004, 08:31 AM   #60
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(merlin here)

bh is a fem?
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