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Borderline Sci-Fi/Fantasy

All sci-fi movies which have too many fantasy elements/unexplained phenomenae to classify properly as science fiction.

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Old Jul 15, 2005, 03:20 PM   #16
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Re: The Dead Zone

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The Shining...?

Let me rephrase that. They're mostly good.

Besides, it couldn't have been THAT bad...
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Old Jul 15, 2005, 10:13 PM   #17
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The "actor" they got to play the child was absolutely embarassing. And if I remember correctly, he seemed to always talk with his mouthful or something. And the tacked-on ending (which was in neither the book or the film) where you see Danny as an adult who sees his father as a ghost who blows him a kiss was so cheesy and sentimental, it would make Spielberg blush.

Agreed. Now here's the kicker for me on the Shining-- I first watched the miniseries, up until the last lengthy episode (which I missed b/c I went on a trip --couldnt tape, yada, yada).

So since I was hooked, and wanted to know the ending, I rented the Jack Nicholson movie, and loved it. (Im an avid Jack fan, though. )

THEN, I got the complete miniseries to finish it, and I have to say....it was BLAH compared to the Jack version. I still enjoyed it, mind you, and the CGI "garden" was really good, but I find that I was more riveted by the older movie--with the seemingly boring old garden maze.

Apply same analogy to rest of film. Repeat.

THe movie was better, but the series wasnt bad.

ROSE RED SUCKED compared to all SKs other miniseries. Im glad he gave them up (supposedly Red was his last one), and even though that thought should have brought me sadness, after watching his version of the Rimbauer's Rose Red, I concluded that he has become SO watered down and played out, maybe he needs to give it a rest.




Complete other direction, sorta.....:

Doesnt KINGDOM HOSPITAL remind you of SK? I was sure he influenced it, but when I did a search, I could find no references to him....
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Old Jul 15, 2005, 10:16 PM   #18
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Re: The Dead Zone

Along the same lines, if anyone is a fan of the otherworldly and sinister (mentally, anyway), try The 4400---it was really good, and I got my housemate into it.

Again, it reminded me of SK, and again, I went on a search trying to figure out what to make of it, but still, no direct connection to the Master of Mental Madness.
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Old Jul 16, 2005, 04:22 AM   #19
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Doesnt KINGDOM HOSPITAL remind you of SK? I was sure he influenced it, but when I did a search, I could find no references to him....

Um...

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Old Jul 17, 2005, 04:58 PM   #20
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Re: The Dead Zone



*smacks forehead*

I deserve that!

God, that was bad! Maybe I mixed that one up w/The 4400, with, by the by, actually USES the music from Kingdom Hospital (Ivy- Bye Bye Baby) as its theme song too. It was uncanny, and very VERY good. I recommend it.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 08:13 PM   #21
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I missed Kingdom Hospital. to bad. I liked Rose Red, though. It coulda been better...but it coulda been much, much worse. I never did see the Shining miniseries, though. I'd like to see a movie from "Desperation", which, in my opinion, is one of Kings best novels.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 08:39 PM   #22
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Re: The Dead Zone

Kingdom Hospital was a laughable remake of von Trier's Riget.
Stephen King stephenkingianized it to pieces and made it into a regular ol' Scary Series.
Something like that.
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Old Jul 20, 2005, 03:17 AM   #23
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Von Trier did a horror film?!

I must see that...
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Old Jul 25, 2005, 01:25 PM   #24
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Yes................must.....
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Old Aug 19, 2005, 01:12 AM   #25
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Ah, now S3 has us back on track. Very strange twists that promise far more interesting conflict ahead. How cool.
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Old Aug 19, 2005, 10:21 PM   #26
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i still thought it sucked.
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Old Aug 20, 2005, 03:46 PM   #27
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I dont know. I think its one of those quacky shows that you really have to be into---specifically because its so slow and portentious.

I think I just like it because it foretells the end of the world.
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Old Aug 20, 2005, 03:48 PM   #28
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I still think that a tv show is pointless. If you've read the book or seen the movie, you already know whats gonna happen. It can only go on for so long before they're writing their own material, and changing it from King's original design.
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Old Aug 20, 2005, 03:58 PM   #29
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Oh, they already have. I havent read the book, but they only claim to base the characters on the book at this point.

I think it helps that I havent seen the original.

But for some odd reason, I get the strong impression that SK didnt actually take the world to the edge of destruction (ie nuclear war, etc) --he prolly just "foresaw" it, with all the fear/anxiety/despair/horror that goes with it.

The man feeds on strong emotion, and to actually have an OUTCOME settles the question for you---thus resolving the inner emotional conflict---killing the story.

You tell me. Did the world come to an end in the SK version?

Because I would LOVE to seen Johnny Smith living in a wasteland. It would be like Johnny Smith Beyond Thunderdome.
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Old Aug 20, 2005, 04:02 PM   #30
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Actually, in Kings original version:

<SPOILERS>

Johnny died in the end. There was a man who was running for president, and he had some pretty outragious opinions. Nothing to strange. But johnny met him, and shook his hand...and BOOM. He saw that the man was gonna be more evil than Hitler. So he tried to kill him...but it didn't work. Johnny died instead.
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