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Star Trek (1979-2002) [movie series]

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View Poll Results: Where should we boldly go from here?
Pay big bucks to keep TNG cast for #11 5 23.81%
Continue the Deep Space Nine story in the films 1 4.76%
Continue the Voyage story in the films 4 19.05%
Move the Enterprise crew onto the big screen 4 19.05%
Continue movie series with new crew, new ship, new stories 3 14.29%
Trash the films, focus entirely on TV 4 19.05%
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Old Feb 28, 2002, 11:01 AM   #1
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

I'm a big fan of the movie series, but it's no secret that the quality of what Star Trek has been bringing to the big screen as of late has not been impressive. As a registered in-the-closet Trekkie, I do haunt the Trek sites frequently and am noticing that the latest film (the tenth) is not generating as much buzz and excitement as it normally would. Most fans feel like it's going to be lost between Star Wars and The Lord of the Rings if they opt for the November 2002 release date. The question is, unless the latest film turns the movie franchise around, what direction do you think the producers should take with the films, considering the fact that this, in all likelyhood, will be TNG cast's last film?
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Old Feb 28, 2002, 11:12 AM   #2
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

I think Trek should follow the old "Cold War" atmosphere that it began TNG with.
The next movie should feature a full out war between the Romulans and the Federation. That's the only way to keep the inerest alive. People had enough of the same thing. But, I REALLY liked Voyager.
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Old Feb 28, 2002, 03:51 PM   #3
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

I liked the Doctor in Voyager, but that was hardly enough to keep me watching. I just didn't like it. I felt like the entire premise was just a gimmick to reproduce the feel of the original, flying around in space "where no man has gone before" and getting into and out of trouble. Enterprise is pretty much the same thing, though with a much more intriguing premise. I am watching Voyager on reruns and some of them are okay.

Personally, I think they ought to scrap any existing Trek and continue the films with an all new crew and/or premise, maybe even focus on one peson, an instellar Federation spy or something like that. Break the mold, do something new...
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Old Feb 28, 2002, 05:06 PM   #4
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

In Babylon 5, a show I consider MUCH superior to Star Trek, there was this one episode that I loved, called "GROPOS", short for Ground Pounders, the nickname of the infantry. It focused on ground warfare on the B5 universe, and it worked great. Perhaps the same would work on Trek...
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Old Feb 28, 2002, 10:19 PM   #5
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

I say that they should concentrate on the series. I was never a great fan of the films in the first place. The fun of ST is in the long drawn-out saga that is built episode by episode and series by series. A two-hour self-sufficient feature film goes against ST's nature.
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Old Mar 25, 2002, 04:40 PM   #6
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

I think if they are going to make films at all - and they will, as long as they can profit - then they should splash out for the TNG cast for no. 11, but this should be their last ST movie. After all, the TV series have moved on, so should TNG movie series. The only reason I say keep the cast this long is to let them go out with a bang. Even if it is an odd number movie ...
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Old Mar 25, 2002, 05:52 PM   #7
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

i would have voted, but there was no option, "scrap star trek completely"

I don't watch anything past the original tv series with spock and kirk. I think that the new stuff was mearly drummed up to wet the appitites of the trek hungry "trekkie"
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Old Mar 26, 2002, 12:39 AM   #8
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The mature seasons of Next Gen were undoubtebly the best of Trek. For one thing Next Gen featured the likes of Whoopie Goldberg and Patrik Stewart. Shatner cannot act his way out of a wet paper bag, and his coleuges are not all that much better.

Notice how no one from the original series did anything after (and in many cases before) Star trek. Now look at the Next Gen cast.
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Old Mar 27, 2002, 10:10 PM   #9
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Generations, I thought, could have been better. Especially the death sequence of CAPT. Kirk. First contact was pretty good but insurrection blew. They need to bring a more dark quality to the movie as in wrath of khan but I think that's asking for too much.
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Old Mar 27, 2002, 10:27 PM   #10
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"Notice how no one from the original series did anything after (and in many cases before) Star trek. Now look at the Next Gen cast."

what you ever seen the original twilight zone episode, "terror at 20,000 feet" ? they guy who saw the monster on the wing of the plane (which looked AMAZINGLY like an ewok) was shatner. It's one of my favorites.

And as for, "now look at the next gen cast" - that doesn't say anything accept for the exploitation of actors who acheived a tid-bit of fame on the 2nd rate star trek show and movies.
I'm not really sure if star trek would be as popular as it is today with out nemoy and shatner. I mean, they MADE that show, without them, it wouldn't be half what it is now.
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Old Mar 28, 2002, 01:44 AM   #11
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what you ever seen the original twilight zone episode, "terror at 20,000 feet" ? they guy who saw the monster on the wing of the plane (which looked AMAZINGLY like an ewok) was shatner. It's one of my favorites.
I said in MANY cases.
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And as for, "now look at the next gen cast" - that doesn't say anything accept for the exploitation of actors who acheived a tid-bit of fame on the 2nd rate star trek show and movies.
I am speaking of established actors of the screen and stage such as Goldberg, Stewart, and the guy who played Data. Hell, the whole lot of them were actually good actors, unlike the TOS bunch. And the writing... dont get me started on that.
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Old Mar 28, 2002, 06:40 AM   #12
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

Hey, Floyd, have you seen the remake of "Terror at 20.000 feet", with the guy from the "3rd Rock from the Sun" (can't remember his name)

It's amazing! He looks out the window, sees the Gremlin sitting on the engine, rips of a flap, looks at it amused... and slams it in the jet intake

Anyway, I don't agree with the statement that the original cast can't act. Dr. McCoy, Spok, and Sulu have very convencing performances.

Forget Uhura and her... yechh... lap dance from ST V
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Old Mar 28, 2002, 09:21 AM   #13
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

John Lithgow.

Trek for an actor is a blessing and a curse all at the same time. As a Trek actor your future is secure as a paid actor, making money from reruns and endless appearances at conventions. But, you'll never be or do any more than that. This has been proven now with not just one but four series. Shatner had another succesfull television series and has been in a few films but his film career panned out very much the way Patrick Stewart's film career is, a lot of okay parts, a part here or there, a few television movies or the occasional ensemble flick (like X-Men) but nowhere near superstardom. Who else has managed to do anything as an actor?

Galaxy Quest is the ultimate tribute to life as a "Trek" actor.
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Old Mar 28, 2002, 04:51 PM   #14
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

"I said in MANY cases."

i realized that... it was more of a "for instance" thing...

(plus i just really liked that episode of the twilight zone)
and john lithgow ROCKS! he's a great actor, and i won't even get into how big a fan i am of 3rd rock from the sun.
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Old Mar 28, 2002, 04:54 PM   #15
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Re: What to do with Star Trek

YOU TOO???!!!

COOL, ANOTHER HARDCORE 3RD ROCK FAN!!!!!!!

Anyway, as for career prospects for Trek actors, I'll say only one thing: "By Grabthar's hammer... what a savings..."
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