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Old Mar 22, 2001, 01:38 PM   #1
iapetus
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Re: 2001 : music

Hi,
I'm new to this forum. Before I had joined it I'd considered my knowledge in the topic of 2001:aso as quite broad, but after reading your posts... I've changed my opinion about this.

But I wanted to write about a thing I didn't see to be mentioned on the forum - about the 2001 music.

2001 music is a really important thing for me - I just couldn't imagine this movie without it - it is an integral component of a great piece of art - which a space odyssey is for me.

My whole adventure with classical music started about three years ago, when I bought 2001 music track CD. I really loved a suite from Gayanneh ballet by Aram Kchahaturian, but the most important was the Gyorgi Ligeli music. I bought whole collection of this author. His music may sound strange for many people, but some would find it curious. I was really inspired by his Lux aetherna, Metamorphoses. It's a quite new form of music called micropoliphony - it may not be very clear fo everyone ( most people consider it as a great mess)

The other thing is a great piece of Richard Strauss' music - Thus spoke Zarathustra, it is a thing I have a great respect for. Without it 2001 couldn't exist, I think.
Please, write your comments what you think about it

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Old Mar 28, 2001, 11:32 PM   #2
Dave Covin
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Thumbs up 2001 music

I agree with you concerning the music in 2001-
The music itself is wonderful- but more amazing is the decision to use those works for the film. The scene that uses the Katchaturian piece was a stroke of genius. I heard this for the first time the year the movie came out- I new then it was special but it was only recently, when I watched it again that I was so moved by that scene. I recently heard the entire movie- dialogue- music and all -on the radio- It was an amazing way to experience the movie- and of course the scene with the Katchaturian captured the lonely -isolated state of the crew of the Discovery in a way no words could ever do. ( It had the same effect on me as the Samuel Barber "Adagio " that was used in Plattoon). I've never heard the entire ballet suite but I want to.

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Old Mar 29, 2001, 07:18 PM   #3
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Re: 2001 : music

I remember the first time i saw the movie, and there;s this part (my fav) where the gorilla (man) has just found the monlith and he picked up a bone and started beating the other bones, when they played the theme song while the gorilla was doing it, it brought chill bumps to my arms. The movie is not a movie, its an experience, you know and i know after we all saw that movie we felt like going outside and watching the stars.
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Old Apr 16, 2001, 02:42 PM   #4
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Re: 2001 : music

I guess I should have read you post first.

According to a skit on Saturday Night Live (NBC, 4/14/01) the theme music to 2001 is "Thus Spake Zarathushtra" by Strauss. Is this true? I had always thought it was an original piece.

Funny where we pick up bits of info, isn't it?
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Old Apr 18, 2001, 03:33 PM   #5
Thulsa Doom
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Just Wait!!!

I've only ever seen 2001 on the small screen, but I've always loved the scene you've describe, largely due to the music I'm sure. Now just wait until October when they re-release it on the big screen. Just imagine that sequence on DTS sound system. That's going to be soooo cool.

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I remember the first time i saw the movie, and there;s this part (my fav) where the gorilla (man) has just found the monlith and he picked up a bone and started beating the other bones, when they played the theme song while the gorilla was doing it, it brought chill bumps to my arms. The movie is not a movie, its an experience, you know and i know after we all saw that movie we felt like going outside and watching the stars.
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Old Jan 31, 2004, 12:23 PM   #6
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remake of theme in 80's

In 1980's, some artis introduced a remake to Thus Spake Zarathustra. It was the best remake I've ever heard. I don't think it was Deodato's remake. The 80's one kinda sounded like deodato's, but it has a heavier techno beat and from time to time, the 2001 theme keeps coming on over and over. You even get to hear HAL ask, "Are you sure you're making the right decision? I think we should stop." It is a great work of art. I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Any ideas as to who this artist(s) are? Anyone remember hearing that remake also?
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Old Jun 13, 2004, 02:25 PM   #7
narobi foss
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Re: 2001 : music

i wonder what the other soundtracks to 2001 sounded like.....the rejected ones. would be interested to hear.
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Old Jun 13, 2004, 03:45 PM   #8
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but could you really imagine it being any different?, i mean its one of those things that the music and images have become inseperable


yeah...i agree...i only really like the ligeti in the score to actually listen to. i've always found The Blue Danube really cheesy. but it is inextricably bound to the film. I`ve never heard any alex north to my knowledge.
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Old Jun 13, 2004, 04:22 PM   #9
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i seen Stockhausen actually about 3 weeks ago. He was opening a new Sonic Arts Centre in Belfast and he played three nights in a row. He played kontacte and Gesang der Jünglinge which was really good. On the last night he played some new piece on his 8 speaker system....it was good in bits too but strangely sounded dated where as his early stuff didn`t. But afterwards he gave a little speach on stage and told everyone that he had astral traveled during the preformance and was in floating in space....amazed at the universe's size but he didn`t know where to go to=] It was brilliant.....he seemed a bit dotty but he was a very sweet old man, i was expecting him to be really conceited....as i`d read some of his writing and it`s really wanky. like most academic music.....John Chowning played too and he was excellent.

but i do think it`s nice to have stockhausen up there floating in space for us all=]
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Old Jun 13, 2004, 05:34 PM   #10
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Re: 2001 : music

yeah...tod dockstader is great....i like most of his stuff except maybe omniphony. francis dhomont's chambre d'enfants is the most affecting thing i`ve heard recently in that kinda area i think.....
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