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Old May 24, 2006, 06:31 AM   #1
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Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Bringing the site up-to-date with content and multimedia is a huge task. Ramses is sure spending a lot of time on this since there is a large gap since 2002 .

So Ramses, is there a way members can help in finding images , plots, reviews for recent movies?

If you can set a layout for needed information I am sure a lot of members could provide help , and possibly make the whole task much easier for you.

How about it?

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Old May 24, 2006, 06:37 AM   #2
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Could we write the reviews? I'd like the site to be melded closer to the forum; it'd be better to get members to write original reviews rather than copying and pasting off somewhere else...

EDIT: The reviews for Back to the Future and Metropolis must be replaced! Way too short to be decent, analytical reviews - and 3/5?! BLASPHEMY!!

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Old May 24, 2006, 06:58 AM   #3
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Second and second. Think that most of us would love to help out/give back to and grow a place that's pretty much home to us - especially for films we love.




Another nice idea is if people could rate the films, along with a selection of squad reviews for each film it gives the site a more unique feel and more information for someone to decide whether it might be their type of film or not - not everyone's taste/expectations are the same and prevents too much skewing to one viewpoint. Possibly another incentive to get newbies more involved/more sf posts.
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Old May 24, 2006, 06:59 AM   #4
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Well i think reviews are tricky and I don't think he should give it to just anyone besides, if you give-take review only from fans of a specific movie all will get high rating.

For reviews you have to have consistency in the sense that you review a bunch of movies even the ones you don't like or don't review at all.

I was thinking more in the lines of extensive plot and multimedia , like screen caps , sound clips.
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:01 AM   #5
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

I always review things I don't like - it's fun bashing them.
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:06 AM   #6
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

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Another nice idea is if people could rate the films, along with a selection of squad reviews for each film it gives the site a more unique feel and more information for someone to decide whether it might be their type of film or not - not everyone's taste/expectations are the same and prevents too much skewing to one viewpoint. Possibly another incentive to get newbies more involved/more sf posts.


Yeah it would be great if say after 500 posts or more you get the privilege to rate movies and write squad reviews.

So we could have a regular rating of the original reviewer and then Squad rating average with specific squad member review.

That would be neat.

BTW I think I'll move this to the suggestion forum.
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:11 AM   #7
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Re Reviews: No all content for a site should be tightly edited before deciding they can even be used and reviews from different viewpoints should be highly encouraged. Think about Last Movie we watched thread - it's not all love. There's only 1 thing I hate about Play, it doesn't have reviews like Amazon, you can't a 'feel' for something before you buy it - and the site makes money from referrals for purchases right? Get the people to trust the site and they'll wanna come here before going to watch/buy something - if the purchase link happens to be happy and dandy there...

You can talk about a film you love, but a review should be quite different. Definatly agree with one's don't like etc. Hence having a selection so people can 'balance' out and judge for themselves - no reviewer is impartial and everyone has different expectations/tastes; hence different people preferring different movie tv reviews shows or movie mags.

Er all the reviews seem to come from Scifi Movie Page - are we affiliated with them? Aren't they kind of our competition? P.S. the link to them needs fixing it currently goes to a redirect page.

Re the rest: as above seconded

edit: this was to your 1st post after mine Ivan (I wanna type hoe ) and better on the moving to suggestions.
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:14 AM   #8
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

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So we could have a regular rating of the original reviewer and then Squad rating average with specific squad member review.

This reminds me of what some movie critics' websites do - after the review, there's either a list of comments by members after it, or a link that reads "What do you think of this movie?", which takes you to a thread of the same title in the movie's forum, where you post your own reviews...

I'd still like to see new directors in the Artist Database, like Cronenberg and Gilliam...
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:16 AM   #9
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Also I think that we should have 10/10 rating star system and not 5/5 star system.
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:19 AM   #10
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

I prefer 5/5's, but only because I very, very rarely give a film a 10 or a 1.

How I rate:

1 star = 1 or 2 out of 10
2 stars = 3 or 4 out of 10
3 stars = 5 or 6 out of 10
4 stars = 7 or 8 out of 10
5 stars = 9 or 10 out of 10
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Old May 24, 2006, 07:20 AM   #11
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

I like 5, it's simpler visually (but I always wind up needing half stars).

P.S. To above: critques of reviews (via a comments section or something) are a good balancing point too. Plus added interactive goodness for newbies.
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Old May 25, 2006, 12:21 AM   #12
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Well after looking at the screen-shot Ramses posted I belive most of what we are talking about here is already planned to be implemented.

Which is great. It looks like we are going to have a cool , slick new site.
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Old May 25, 2006, 02:38 AM   #13
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

Wow, thanks for the kind offers fellow pilots!

Pilot-contributed plots and multimedia is definitely welcome. I'll be rolling out features one at a time, commencing with a few core elements like reviews, and then expanding into other fields.

The current reviews do come from affiliate South African website Sci-Fi Movie Page, but won't for long: as Nexus says, some of these are rather short (true, I edited some to remove spoilers). Pilots and new faces alike can surely produce more detailed critiques. Additionally, a large spectrum collection of reviews as suggested by Seraph would indeed make for a more balanced and fair approach. We definitely think alike.

Currently, the review system under development splits-up ratings into 5 components, averaging them into an overall score:
  1. Engaging Story/script: How good is the story good and is it engaging?
  2. Credible Science: How believable is the science portrayed?
  3. Cast & Directing: How talented are the cast and the director?
  4. Audio & Visuals: How balanced and what quality are the cinematography/photography, score and effects (for the time)?
  5. Viewers' Tilt: How much fun did you have watching this?
  6. Overall: round(sum(1,5)/5, 1)
This should help give more accurate credits in case of situations like badly-acted, low-budget yet worthy movies with very interesting story and science.
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Old May 25, 2006, 02:48 AM   #14
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

That's an interesting way to do it...

Wow, I consider Metropolis a 5-star movie, but that has such a silly story, I wonder how it would turn out now...
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Old May 25, 2006, 03:39 AM   #15
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Re: Rebuilding main sciflicks site, can users help Ramses?

~quivers~

I'm SO excited (and I haven't even looked at the other thread yet). More GADGETS!

~scuttles off~
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