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Star Wars (1977-2005) [movie series]

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Old Aug 21, 2004, 10:08 PM   #1
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Star Wars with Supershadow

These chats with supershadow have been erased. We are wanting to get rid of supershadow since he has lied to me for all those years.

Lieutenant Dannl Faytonni
Home world: Corellia

Dannl Faytonni dreamed of a career as an officer in service to the Republic. His two main strengths led him astray: a nimble mind attuned to the variables of sabacc, and a suavely mature way with women that inspired awe and admiration. It was the latter attribute that caused him to fall for the wrong woman, a shifty changeling who conned him into fronting a spice-mining scheme. While he narrowly escaped arrest, he found himself with both CorSec and alien enemies on his tail. Enlisting the help of his ambitious and inventive friend, Achk-Med-Beq, Dannl escaped Corellia. His hopes for serving in uniform dashed, Dannl realized that there was profit and excitement to be had in the art of confidence and grifting. A series of misadventures later, the two ended up on Coruscant. A short stint in the Moderate Security Ward of the Coco District Penitentiary ended when they conned their ways aboard a laundry speeder. A profitable evening's worth of gambling later, the two con men ended up with Republic uniforms. Now a "Lieutenant" (or so his rank piping indicated), Faytonni and Med-Beq hit the Outlander Club, looking for marks and entertainment.

Achk Med-Beq
Home world: Unknown

Achk Med-Beq and Lt. Dannl Faytonni are partners in crime, though Med-Beq is probably the more inventive and ambitious of the two. Faytonni and Med-Beq took the plunge into the underworld when a botched spice mine front nearly landed Faytonni in jail. With Med-Beq's help, Dannl fled to Corellia and eventually ended up on Coruscant. They did a very brief stint at the Moderate Security Ward of the Coco District Penitentiary, before escaping in a laundry speeder. Dannl's gambling skills won them a pair of Republic official uniforms, which they wore to the Outlander Club that night.

I numbered things with Supershadow. Many people believe that supershadow is a liar. Does anyone ever use this web site? He says that he has Star Wars information. Supershadow says that he has done documentaries and I never saw any of them listed on the Internet Movie Database.

Below OptimusPrime75 told me all this.

Sorry, Demo,18 but I think you need to some serious work on your fanfiction, it's called research.

Crix Madine was a loyal Imperial officer until just after the Battle of Yavin and a Corellian so it was highly doubtful that he would have ever met Bail Organa as an associate considering the Death Star blew Alderaan and Organa up. And from all appearences from 'Return of the Jedi' he was probably as young if not just a little older than Han Solo. Which during your story would have made him about 10 years old. Jan Dodonna was of failing health and very old age in 'A New Hope' And I doubt he was much of a starfighter pilot when he was younger.

Bail Organa was married to Alderaan's Minister of Education. Plus where did you come up with Palpatine killing Padme? Leia herself responds in 'Return of the Jedi' that she remembers her mother, and that she died then. Another thing, Bail Organa only knew that Kenobi was hiding out on Tatooine because he knew that Luke had been taken there. I highly doubt that anyone other than Ben knew that Yoda was still alive, much less in hiding.

It took years before the Rebellion and the Rebel Alliance came into being as seen in "A New Hope"

The X-Wing didn't come into use by the Alliance until months before the Battle of Yavin. Sienar Fleet Systems also didn't develop the TIE fighter we all know and love until before the Battle of Yavin

("The Emperor sees hot human women"

What kind of storytelling is this? Really, I have to wonder where you learned to write stories. )

And to top it all off, your stories can't actually be considered until after Episode III comes out.

Source Info drawn www.StarWars.com and 'The New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels'

I don't know where you got your info, but Lucas himself authorized the expanded universe, it's not some alternate universe as you say. These are things he has personally stated. And he does not let the expanded universe authors have free reign over what happens to his characters.

Possible SPOILER!

In the New Jedi Order series set 25-30 years after the Battle of Yavin, it was Lucas that authorized the death of Chewbacca in 'Vector Prime'. And then later the death of one of the Solo children.

George is extremely iron-handed when it comes to what happens to the Star Wars mythos and where it leads or where it has been in the past. The movies, the games, the comics, and even the role-playing games aren't released unless they have been checked with and match previous releases.

and as for this supershadow.com, I suggest you go to the actual source www.starwars.com

Crix Madine is canNOT be in Episode III, have you bothered even to watch Return of the Jedi? Steve Buscemi as Madine is laughable. Nor is Jan Dodonna listed as having an appearance. Mon Mothma is being played by Genevieve O'Reilly. Aurra Sing already has an actress/model playing her, Michonne Bourriagure.

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Old Aug 23, 2004, 03:29 PM   #2
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

Good grief Demo.

How about a one paragraph summary?
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Old Aug 23, 2004, 10:02 PM   #3
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

It's because Supershadow IS a liar. Look at all that bull****. Man, Demo, who are one stupid sucker for anything in print.

He's never done any documentaries, he's a liar.
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Old Jun 22, 2005, 04:48 PM   #4
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

I looked at Supershadow's website and there is a section in which Lucas writes an on-line chat or response to an email query that asks for writerly advice, replying that, with regard to his own writing abilities, nobody could ever attain the level of genius that he himself has attained--as evidenced in his Star Wars movies--but then goes on to give advise on what those of lesser talents might do to achieve a lesser success.

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Old Sep 26, 2005, 03:34 PM   #5
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

Supershadow has lied to me all those years about forwarding my suggestions to George Lucas.

Darth Rage was not made up by supershadow neither was Xio Jade.

Supershadow steals things. There's this light saber that cuts other light saber blades. The picture is stolen by supershadow from Super Smash Brothers.

Supershadow says that General Grievous was used instead of Darth Rage.

Darth Rage was a rumor of the new apprentice to Darth Sidious in Episode 2 years ago. Also there was an early draft and supershadow stole it where the new villains in Episode 3 are the 3 other sith lords. Darth Maul is cloned. Darth Bane was alive for all those years.

The jedi and sith history section supershadow made up but I don't think that they are bad ideas to go along with Star Wars back stories.

Also supershadow lied to us about force powers like the force fireball, force quake and force tornado. I didn't think they are bad ideas. This light saber that supershadow made up I disagree on.

Supershadow made up many characters but I think that they have interesting names.

Also supershadow says that George Lucas requests that we stop writing Star Wars fan fiction. If George Lucas asked us to stop writing Star Wars fan fiction than he would've sent letters to all those fan fiction sites (even fanfiction.net where there would've been an update on their rules). Star Wars fan fiction is still allowed on fanfiction.net. Supershadow is really lying.

He even says that the EU is for fun or pretend and for money. Supershadow says that only the movies represent Star Wars fact.

Another supershadow lie is he says that George Lucas says that all EU material should be obliterated. Supershadow even says that the Knights of the Old Repbulic video games are the only EU material that George Lucas accepts as true Star Wars history.

It might be supershadow or accomplices of his posing as George Lucas. I believed supershadow because Uncle Jay worked for him.

Uncle Jay might be another liar. He once said that Scott Glenn plays an imperial in ROTS. He was lying. Uncle Jay says that the EU is not Lucas's vision of Star Wars. They weren't his ideas.

Someone posing as George Lucas even says that the EU is done for money on a Star Wars television series.

The expanded universe picks up from the movies and leads up to the movies and tells tales of what's going on during the movies.

You people tell me research for fan fiction. There are people that write Star Wars fan fiction different than the expanded universe to chronicle the movies or lead into the movies. George Lucas counts only the movies as Star Wars canon.

Maybe that's another supershadow lie that George Lucas doesn't accept the EU as real Star Wars. Supershadow even says the EU doesn't exist to George Lucas. Then one time Optimusprime75 says that George Lucas authorized the expanded universe.

I think that supershadow is on his web site is posing as George Lucas. One time supershadow's site was defaced but not it's back on. Supershadow even says that the Knights of the Old Repulic video games are the only EU material that George Lucas accepts as acctual Star Wars. That must be all lies by Supershaodw and the EU doens't represent Lucas's vision of Star Wars.

I think now that it's supershadow's web site that doesn't represent Lucas's true vision of Star Wars.

It says now that supershadow's site is defaced. It has been before.

This site might be coming back. Go to this link. g00ns.com/

There is allot of supershadow talk there. Maybe all that will prove that supershadow is a phony.

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Old May 29, 2006, 03:52 PM   #6
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

Supershadow has stolen information from other web sites. Star Wars Insider just says that there are lots of unlabled fan fiction floating around the Internet.

It even said that Nebar Foxis was just a fan created character and doesn't exist. Nebar Foxis is supershadow's version of Cin Drallig. Nick Gillard played Cin Drallig. He was the jedi being killed by Darth Vader in the jedi temple.
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Old May 29, 2006, 04:06 PM   #7
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supershadow only creations with corrections over them

I have bolded the supershadow lies and underlined corrections over the SS lies. You others could write in more.

Also that is supershadow or one of his followers posing as George Lucas. Also Supershadow steals pictures from magazines and model web sites and posts them on his site telling us that those are his girlfriends. He also has a picture of Chris Isaak and tells us that it's him. Supershadow also is really a computer engineer. He used to work for Ghepto Kitchens. Supershadow's documentaries are false since they don't appear on the imdb.com.

Supershadow is not friends with George Lucas and doesn't associate with Lucasfilm.

There's a list of 85 supershadow lies and not all of them have corrections over them.

"The EU is completely false and does not correspond with GL's (George Lucas) vision."
— Mickey Suttle

Below is a list of things that are totally non-canonical (in some cases even completely false) and cannot be substantiated anywhere other than SuperShadow and those who believe him. Some SuperShadow inventions have corrections after them.

Creations

1. Darth Seer, who reorganized the Sith Order and trained Darth Mongerer. Darth Mirage, Darth Sinistar, Darth Horrar, Darth Thrax, Darth Slane, Darth Vak, Darth Vicrone, and Darth Secretus. They could just be considered fan created characters rather than supershadow lies.

2. Three different force using orders. One, the Sutrans, a group of light side users who do not follow the way of the Jedi. This order supposedly contained many member of ET's species. Two, the Vortari, named after their founder Lady Vortari. Three, the Biotans.

3. Kaja Sinis, the first Jedi and a Civian, his first apprentice being Shintor Beerus, a Twi'lek. The first Jedi was a Skywalker priest with unknown background.

4. Zuti Darklighter, the first Dark Jedi. In canon, the first Dark Jedi was General Xendor who was also the leader of the Legions of Lettow. The first leader of the dark jedi order was Lettow succeeded by General Xendor as leader of the dark jedi.

5. Darth Tantalon, the most Force-powerful Sith and Darth Cladar, the most physically powerful. They again could be more fan created characters.

6. The Penari lightsaber, a Jedi scientist created yellow lightsaber capable of cutting through other lightsabers. The weapon was supposedly considered too dangerous by the Jedi Council, and destroyed. The picture of the weapon is actually a beam sword from Super Smash Bros, made obvious by the token floating underneath it. The saber is supposedly powered exclusively by illegal yellow saber crystals, which are only used in the Penari lightsaber.

7. Darth Scarz, the first Sith. (The name Darth is generally thought to originate with either Darth Revan, or Darth Andeddu) The first Dark lord of the Sith was either Xendor or the Red-Armored Dark Lord.

8. Xio Jade, the supposed aunt of Mara Jade, and the most powerful female Sith in history. Xio Jade might've not been made up by SuperShadow or could be supershadow's verison of Lady Lumiya. Xio Jade was found in an earlier draft of Star Wars Episode 3 on other sites than SuperShadow's site.
Many other Jedi, Dark Jedi, and Sith Lords.

9. The existence of the Force powers Force grab, Force fireball, Force tornado, Force earthquake, Force avalanche, and Force vanish. The Force Vanish was in the Super Return of the Jedi video games when playing as Luke Skywalker so that is not be a SuperShadow only creation.

10. That Mace Windu comes from a planet named Erberius (He is from Haruun Kal).

11. That Lando Calrissian comes from a planet named Zaskus. It is unknown where Lando comes from.

12. The planet of Pilegias, claiming that Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi was born there. He also claims that Kenobi was found by the Jedi Order on the planet Kelchase, another creation of his. It is unknown what planets Obi-Wan Kenobi has come from.

13. The planet and system of Valorius, the supposed origin point of the Dark Side, which is destroyed in SuperShadow's sequel trilogy.

14. The planet of Thessius, claimed to be the watery island world Shmi Skywalker moved to, before she was sold to slavery, but not before giving birth to Anakin Skywalker. Their homeworld is unknown before Tatooine.

15. The first Sith monarch, Darth Ghore. The first Sith Lord is really unknown.

16. The so-called "dumbest Sith", Darth Kanamite. The Dumbest sith is unknown.

17. The Black Hole Devastator, a superweapon capable of destroying an entire star system by creating an artificial black hole.

18. That the youngest Jedi to be appointed to the Jedi Council before Anakin Skywalker was not Mace Windu, but a 27-year-old Jedi named Gnaren Viskus, who joined the Council for his ability to foresee the Yakter rebellion (also SuperShadow's invention).

19. That Jango Fett was born on Zogeis (He was born on Concord Dawn).

20. Norius Havok, the most powerful Dark Jedi in history. The Most powerful dark jedi in history is unknown.

21. The Light Lance, The Light Mace, The Light Staff (not to be confused with Double-bladed lightsaber), The Light Boomerang and The Light Scissors.

Name changes

22. That Yoda is a Whill (no relation to Journal of the Whills) from a planet named Grentarik, and that his last name is Dkana. SuperShadow also claims that his father's name was Syville Dmetris Dkana, and that his trainer was Bontu Sitmus, also a Whill. According to Star Wars Galaxy 9, Yoda's master's name is N'Kata Del Gormo and he was a Hysalrian. George Lucas has stated that Yoda is not a Whill, and it is not known what Yoda's species is. However many believe that Yoda is of the well unknown tridactyl species. It said in Star Wars Insider that Yoda was trained by Brontu Stimus a jedi who might or might've not been the same species as Yoda.

23. That Anakin Skywalker's middle name is Cleevon.

24. That Ben Skywalker's middle name is Jhon.

25. That the name of the Star Wars Galaxy is Vordarian Beltway Galaxy, and that it is 850 trillion light-years away from the Milky Way galaxy, though the Universe is found to only be 78 billion light-years in diameter. The only official description given about the Star Wars galaxy in relation to the Milky Way is that it is a galaxy far, far away.

26. That Dantius is the first name of Palpatine, Jard is the first name of Count Dooku, that General Grievous' last name is Shakar, and that he is of a species named Omix Patra (General Grievous is of the Kaleesh species; the first names of Palpatine and Dooku are not revealed in the canon, and Grievous' real name is Qymaen jai Sheelal). He later reviewed and changed the race of Grievous, probably after being warned by a fan.

27. That Darth Maul's real name is Khameir Sarin. Darth Maul's real name is unknown and although other sources agree with Supershadow, it's probably untrue.

28. That Darth Bane's real name is Naxion Mardris. Darth Bane's real name is Dessel. His whole name is unknown.

29. The Dark Woman's real name is Ishto Papar and she was trained as a Sith by Darth Bane and rejected him and escaped and gained immortality. The Dark Woman's real name is An'ya Kuro. The Dark Woman lived to be 99 years old.

30. That the young Padawan whom Bail Organa sees being shot by clone troopers in Revenge of the Sith is called Iceron Morvian. (His name is Zett Jukassa.)

Plot changes

31. That the Galactic Republic is at least 75,000 years old, and its first Supreme Chancellor was named Merk Quanto. The majority of canon sources state the Republic is just around 25,000 years old, and its current incarnation has stood for 1000 years. The first Republic Chancellor is unknown.

32. That Darth Sidious had another apprentice before and after Darth Maul, Darth Venom, who trained Darth Orcron and broke the rule of two, and Darth Rage, a Toban from Yetis, who was killed by Plo Koon using the Force Avalanche technique, another SuperShadow creation

33. Rodar Wizards of Perdonis, who supposedly created the kyber/kaiburr crystal (which is not a SuperShadow creation, it appears in the first EU novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye) over 100,000 years BBY, and, in his words 'made Emperor Palpatine look like a nun'. SuperShadow also claims that Darth Sidious uses such a crystal to amplify his power. If one looks carefully at pictures of Darth Sidious or action figures he doesn't have anything around his neck. Described as being so poweful that any Jedi or Sith that went up against them "would be slaughtered".

34. That lightsabers were invented around the founding of the Jedi Order. (Whereas during the Great Schism they didn't seem to have been developed, until the primitive ones of the Great Hyperspace War).

35. That Darth Plagueis was trained by Darth Imperius, trained by Darth Baltimort, trained by Darth Frordon. Marka could've been who trained Darth Plagueis as a Sith lord. It is unknown of those as the Sith Masters.

36. That Anakin Skywalker had no contact with Count Dooku before meeting him in the Invisible Hand. This gives the impression that SuperShadow considers himself above the movies, the highest canon.

37. That Mara Jade married Luke Skywalker five years ABY, despite contradictions in various EU books which state that they did not even meet until 9 ABY. In his defense, SuperShadow has said that "the EU is fake", but he himself uses many EU ideas and characters in his rough drafts and sequel trilogy plot summaries.

38. That Mace Windu has been hiding on Coruscant ever since Episode III (he "lands on refuse that safely breaks his fall") and will feature heavily in his proposed sequel trilogy. Since SuperShadow also claims that Kyle Katarn will be around 65 years old by Episode VII, Windu, even if he did survive Episode III, would die of old age before Episode VII. (To explain this, SuperShadow claims that Humans can live up to 300 years through bio-engineering.)

39. That Count Dooku never killed a Jedi, although it is widely known that Dooku killed his old friend and Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas in order to prove to Sidious his Sith potential, for one.

40. That Yarael Poof was trained by Zinkor Dawn, and that Even Piell was trained by Haccor Topkin.

41. That Mace Windu was trained by Cloto Nervon on Ophuchi.

42. That Anakin Solo was trained by Apriles Mondifer, and that Ben Skywalker was trained by Hirin Voltkack. Ben Skywalker was trained by Jacen Solo and than Anakin Solo was trained by the Skywalker twins.

43. That Grievous was almost defeated by three Jedi prior to his duel with Obi-Wan, one of which was Nebar Foxis, the Jedi for who he claims to have a cameo role in Revenge of the Sith.

44. That Luke Skywalker will destroy the dark side of the Force eventually. which is essentially impossible.

45. That by the end of the Clone Wars, Obi-Wan Kenobi was by far the most powerful Force-user in the galaxy, ranking above both Darth Sidious and Yoda. (Although this is widely accepted through-out the Star Wars fanbase it is not a canonical fact as SuperShadow presents it).

46. That Darth Bane is "alive and kicking" during his proposed third trilogy. Darth Bane died either of old age or someone killed him before Yoda was born.

47. The remains of the Separatists were taken back to Coruscant by Darth Sidious and his clone troopers when they came to Mustafar to save Darth Vader.

48. After his duel with Sidious Mace Windu's lightsaber was found and sold at an auction a few months later.

49. Aurra Sing was killed by Nto Boraj during the Galactic Civil War. Aurra Sing is alive in Star Wars: Demolition and possibly works for Jabba the Hutt in the days of the Galactic Empire.

50. That the Sith are extinct for the rest of eternity after Anakin Skywalker killed Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine aboard the Second Death Star. This is one of the few truths on the site, but many believe the Sith are alive after the death of the Emperor. To clear things up, the ones that came after Palpatine were trained in the Sith arts, but never achieved full Sith status. Darth Vader and Darth Sidious were the last of the sith in the rule of two order. Just like cheating spouses as in the Marvel Star Wars Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious trained flint as a sith lord and Darth Vader trained Lady Lumiya in the sith arts.

51. That Sifo-Dyas was one of the three Jedi Palpatine considered for an apprentice after the death of Darth Maul, along with Jard Dooku and a cyborg named Detori who was renamed Darth Rage. When Sifo refused to join him, Palpatine killed him with a Force Fireball and Earthquake. Darth Sidious in the canon had Count Dooku kill Sifo-Dyas to join as the replacement for Darth Maul.

52. That Cin Drallig never existed, and was a fake character. Cin Drallig was the Jedi Master that Obi-Wan Kenobi saw Anakin Skywalker kill in security recording at the Jedi Temple in Episode III. He also claims that his character of Nebar Foxis was the Jedi seen killed. Nebar Foxis must be the supershadow version of Cin Drallig. Than supershadow telling us that Cin Drallig is a fake Star Wars character puts him in his "jedi and sith history section".

53. That Chancellor Valorum was executed by the Empire as a traitor to Palpatine when he is clearly shown being murdered in Clone Wars Volume 5 of Dark Horse's "Republic" series. It is no suprise, Mickey Suttle says that George Lucas considers the Expanded Universe fake and than says only the movies and supershadow.com represent George Lucas's true vision of Star Wars. George Lucas authorizes the movie character's fates as George Lucas authorized the expanded universe. Supershadow needs to know that George Lucas doesn't give the EU authors free reign over movie character's fates.

Other changes

54. That Zam Wesell is really a male and is in disguise as a female human It is said on many sources that Zam Wesell is a female clawdite. Zam Wessell is officially a female.

55. That Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas is Ogdarian (in Star Wars Visionaries, he's human).

56. That Darth Maul's Sith Infiltrator lacked a cloaking device, another sign of his defiance of canon material like the Visual Dictionaries.

57. That the planet Granicus was the homeworld of the Gran (they are from Kinyen).

58. That Darth Revan was killed by a force avalanche, and that his apprentice Malak lost his jaw in a fight with a Jedi master named Kylo Spartos.

59. Darth Gilgon and his apprentice Darth Augor. Sith Lords in those times had unknown names.

60. That Plo Koon was trained by Diris Flassis, rather than by Tyvokka.

61.That General Grievous has a Midichlorian count higher than an ordinary Jedi. The Episode III Visual Dictionary announced that General Grievous is not Force-sensitive.

62. That Exar Kun was not a very powerful Sith lord, ranking less than 15 on SuperShadow's 'Top 15 Most Powerful Sith Lords’. This is surprising, as he claims that the game KOTOR is canon, and in KOTOR Exar Kun is referred to by certain characters as one of the most powerful Sith Lord in history. Also SuperShadow says to us that George Lucas doesn't accept Exar Kun as a real Star Wars character.

63. That Jango Fett was not a Mandalorian warrior and simply found his armor in the trash. Jango Fett lived on Concord Dawn, where he was adopted into the Mandalorian clans by Jaster Mereel, and that is how he got his armor, eventually succedding Mereel was Mandalore.

64. That the Yuuzhan Vong are not canon and never invade the galaxy. The Yuuzhan Vong invasion was authorized by George Lucas as he authorized this novel series.

65. That Adi Gallia was killed by Clones, Pablo-Jill was killed by clones on Gedius (one of his creations) and Bultar Swan was killed by Super Battle Droids. George Lucas doesn't give the Expanded Universe authors free reign over the movie character's fates. Adi Gallia and Pablo-Jill were killed by General Grievous during the Clone Wars. Bultar Swan went up against Darth Vader one month after the events depicted in Revenge of the Sith and another Jedi, named Koffi Arana, killed her and then was was killed by Darth Vader.

66. Darth Revan has a lower midichlorian count than Darth Malak, even though Revan was the Sith master, and he later defeated Malak as a Jedi.

67. That Aurra Sing is a Herclu. Aurra Sing's species is unknown at this point.

Statements

It is thought that his script of Episode III has been plagiarized, as it is identical to various other scripts.

68. That the tradition of cremating dead Jedi originated by a Jedi being disintegrated by a bounty hunter.

69. That Lucas said the Expanded Universe is fake, although he ties in the EU in many of his false statements. The truth is the Expanded Universe relates to the movies by extending to the story lines of the movies. George Lucas authorized the EU and is iron handed when it comes to Star Wars. The EU and the movies have some contradictions to each other. George Lucas approves of the EU story lines that take place in between the movies and what covers before and after the movies. Supershadow himself considers the EU fake and than he says that he considers all Expanded Universe material and fan fiction canonical. The Expanded Universe in reality is officially considered part of Star Wars continuity, regardless of Lucas's personal involvement in any of the projects, though some sources are more authoritative than others. The levels of canonicity and their organization is determined by those Lucas has appointed for the task, including Leland Chee of the Holocron. All EU sources are considered (though older sources may be retconned) for inclusion in continuity with newer sources taking precedence, excluding only sources labelled "Infinities." SuperShadow gives the impression that only a few parts of the EU are canon, such as the comic books or the KOTOR games, though he is inconsistent on even these two points.

70. That George Lucas gives only a few hundred dollars a year to charity, because he spends almost all of his money on fast cars and beautiful women. He blames poverty on lazy people who cannot be bothered to find jobs. He also dismisses all other religions than Christianity as "trash".

71. That the Clone Wars cartoon series doesn't represent George Lucas's vision of Star Wars and is just for fun. George Lucas either wrote the Clone Wars cartoon series or authorized it and someone else wrote it. That in general, the Expanded Universe is just for fun or pretend. According to George Lucas and his vision of Star Wars the Expanded Universe does not exist.

72. That George Lucas says to ignore the EU because it's irrelavent. The EU covers some character fates and what happens in between the movies.

73. That most fans never follow the expanded universe and that the George Lucas considers the Expanded Universe garbage.

74. That the Star Wars books and comics don't count as canon. The EU novels and comics by Dark Horse Comics are either secondary canon or continuity canon. Only the movies are George Lucas canon and novelizations along with comic book adaptions. George Lucas canonized the books and comics that are supposed to relate to the movies. The only comic books by Dark Horse Comics that don't count as canon and are non canon are Star Wars Infinities: A New Hope, Star Wars Infinities: The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars Infinities: Return of the Jedi. Also what are non canon are those in the Star Wars Tales that aren't movie related and anything that's Infinities related. The early Star Wars Tales were non-canon, while later Star Wars Tales were considered part of continuity canon.

75. That time travel doesn't exist in the Star Wars Universe. Yet when replying to a question by a fan the day after regarding time travel he made no mention of this, and even encouraged the idea.

76. That General Grievous was inspired by Darth Rage for a mechanical force using villain since George Lucas didn't include Darth Rage in the movies who was said to be Darth Sidious's Sith apprentice after Darth Maul was killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi.

77. That Cin Drallig is not canon and that is the reason why he is not in the databank. Yet, he appears in Revenge of the Sith. Drallig is an imaginary character. Sprung out of juvenile fan rumors. Nebar Foxis is supershadow's version of Cin Drallig. Than Supershadow uses that character as a jedi in the history of the jedi and sith section.

78. That most or many fans don't know that the New Jedi Order novel series exists. Many fans know of the New Jedi Order novel series and that Chewbacca died in Vector Prime.

79. That George Lucas asks fans to stop writing Star Wars fan fiction, when he in fact encourages it on sites such as www.fanfiction.net and George Lucas despises fan fiction on Star Wars. George Lucas is not concerned about fan fiction as long as it is not done for profit.

80. That George Lucas thinks that all Star Wars Expanded Universe material should be obliterated. George Lucas again has nothing against the expanded universe.

81. That a Sith Lord or Dark Jedi at death has her or his spirit obliterated from existence and there is no afterlife for a Sith Lord or Dark Jedi.

82. That nobody buys the expanded universe books and that the vast majority of fans completely ignore the expanded universe of novels and comic books. Many Star Wars fans do read the EU novels and comic books, and play the video games.

83. That Quinlan Vos doesn't exist officially. Supershadow than states that Quinlan Vos was killed by clones on Boz Pity. Quinlan Vos was in the draft of Revenge of the Sith with his scene not filmed and had a cameo in The Phantom Menace. Quinlan Vos was blown away by his clone troopers and thought to be dead. Obi-Wan Kenobi even tells Anakin Skywalker in Revenge of the Sith movie that Master Vos has moved his troops to Boz Pity.

84. That the galaxy map on his site, plagiarized from nav-computer.com, was created by Lucas himself and is regarded by Lucas as the best galaxy map ever made.

85. That he portrayed the character in Dex's Diner sitting behind Obi-Wan Kenobi in Attack of the Clones, when in fact that character was portrayed by Australian celebrity Dylan Lewis.

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Old May 30, 2006, 11:02 AM   #8
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

why can't we delete Demo's posts or better yet, ban him? Please, pretty please
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Old May 30, 2006, 02:20 PM   #9
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

If they delete my posts or ban me I will scream at people that body piercings and tattoos are illegal in Demolition Man and you people will be at fault if I get in trouble for yelling.

I am report negative replies to the moderators. I kept posting because I didn't know how to edit. Know I know. Please someone ban Optimus Prime or delete his negative replies because he is causing me to scream about Demolition Man since no one else will write fan fiction or a Jesse Ventura fight cut out.

We need more Demolition Man for a society with tattoos and body piercings illegal since there are no politicians against that stuff but there are against smoking like the New Jersey governor and former acting governor. Also Demolition Man needs back stories. We want to see this society and than people fighting for freedom.

Please any of you who have nothing nice to say please don't post replies than. I hate smoking and smoking affects our money when people give themselves cancer or other people since we are paying for their treatments.

We need a supershadow thread to warn those who believe him.
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

I think Op was trying to be funny. As long as your stuff is pretty much on topic and realitve to this forum and the thread it's in then you won't suffer any deletions and certainly won't be banned. I can't ban people anyway.

To Op and Dem - play nice...please.
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Old May 31, 2006, 11:03 AM   #11
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

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If they delete my posts or ban me I will scream at people that body piercings and tattoos are illegal in Demolition Man and you people will be at fault if I get in trouble for yelling.

I am report negative replies to the moderators. I kept posting because I didn't know how to edit. Know I know. Please someone ban Optimus Prime or delete his negative replies because he is causing me to scream about Demolition Man since no one else will write fan fiction or a Jesse Ventura fight cut out.

We need more Demolition Man for a society with tattoos and body piercings illegal since there are no politicians against that stuff but there are against smoking like the New Jersey governor and former acting governor. Also Demolition Man needs back stories. We want to see this society and than people fighting for freedom.

Please any of you who have nothing nice to say please don't post replies than. I hate smoking and smoking affects our money when people give themselves cancer or other people since we are paying for their treatments.

We need a supershadow thread to warn those who believe him.

Oops, sorry, I forgot that sarcasm and humor are ineffective on Demo.

Anyway, Demo, no one here has ever believed Supershadow and unless you bring him and his lies up everytime you show up, we don't even remember he exists. Because we know better, unlike you.

Sorry, Sith, I just can't help responding unkindly to Demo. Resistance is Futile
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Old May 31, 2006, 02:35 PM   #12
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Re: Star Wars with Supershadow

I think Optimus Prime I use yodasdatapad.com for Star Wars information. Maybe if there are any more questions I'll use starwars.com.

Do you have any Star Wars expanded universe material yourself? I collect any of it that's out there. I never read the Marvel Comic book series. I have read Splinter of a Mind's Eye. That's the oldest EU novel ever.

How many more here follow the EU? George Lucas doesn't consider the EU fake.
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